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Is it believable that Frasier got all those beautiful women?


I didn't find him very good looking. He was overweight and noticeably balding. His hair in the first couple of seasons was terrible (though that mullet thing may have been the style back in the early 90s, idk). Is it really believable that he got all those beautiful women, including models? I don't think he ever dated someone who was actually in his league looks wise.

Maybe it was because he had money and fame? Or was he actually an attractive guy and I'm somehow the only one who doesn't see it?

I think Kelsey Grammer was very good looking as a very young man, but by the time he hit middle age, not so much.

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Rich, big-city radio celebrity, luxury condo overlooking the city, and a smooth line of BS. Yeah, he could get those women.

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He was intelligent, successful in two careers (radio and psychology arguably the same) wealthy, cultured. I'm more surprised he wasn't dating 18 year olds.

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Believe it or not, women don't think looks are everything. He's not a model type, or leading man sort, but he's decent enough, and the character is cultured, polite, charming, sometimes, and also intelligent. He's quirky, too, though, and has a lot of flaws, which is why he didn't hold on to any of them.

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I have a real story to tell..I was in Bradenton, Florida and my friend was renting out his house to a 30 year old guy from Romania. He was in a 3 year program to become a doctor at the local hospital. He was married with one child. Anyway, he was making the next step to get his wife over and he was going through a realtor to rent a house. There were two realtors in the office, one was a young female around 25. Anyway, he normally talked to the older lady in the office but one day he called and being a foreigner not knowing exactly what to do he mentioned the young females name to call him back about a house he was interested in. Well, let me tell you that young female almost had a freaking heart attack, she could barely dial his number on her stupid smartphone. She was shaking as she was thinking she was about to bag a doctor!

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Yep.... the "doctor" before his name was the reason he was bagging all the women. If he had always introduced himself as Frasier Krane the garbage man he wouldn't have gotten shit.

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A Doctor(Psychiatrist) who was educated at Harvard and Oxford and makes $200K a year will get lots of women despite average looks.

I agree Kelsey Grammer was, is an average looking guy. The show does have many moments when Frasier is going through a dating and sexual drought. One time it was over 6 months since he was last laid.

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I thought it was believable. He wasn’t the best looking guy but he wasn’t exactly ugly either. He was still tall, articulate, smart and well dressed- all qualities that women like. It’s also possible that his voice made up for it too.

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NO.

It's among it's greatest flaws.

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There are a lot of average-looking actors who seem to end up in movies or tv shows where they are sought after by beautiful women. I think sometimes it's meant as irony within the story the show is trying to tell. Most of the time I think it's just part of the fantasy of the show: the idea that if an average guy like this can attract someone very beautiful, so can you, average-looking viewer. For comedy, in my opinion comedy is a lot harder to act than drama. So if your story is a comedy then the talent of the actor at getting laughs is more important than how objectively good-looking they are. For men, at least. For women, it's still mostly about looks. Liz Lemon from 30 Rock might talk about how plain she is, but Tina Fey is actually really pretty. Likewise, while it's common to see an average-looking guy win the heart of the beautiful girl in movies, it's not so common to see an average-looking woman have the same outcome with a man who fits stereotypical handsome traits. So male and female looks aren't really treated the same in tv or movies.

Also, as someone else pointed out, attractiveness to women is not just looks. For some women money and success is part of it, but there are also men who are not in any way conventionally attractive but who women all agree amongst ourselves are very attractive. Something to do with how they treat you, maybe?

I don't mind, either way. TV and movies are fantasies anyway. Part of the tacit agreement with the viewer is that we suspend disbelief when we watch, so that we can enjoy the story. So just as I'm willing to believe that an average-looking guy can attract one gorgeous woman after another, I'm also willing to believe that a 120lb female can defeat a 230lb male in combat, if the story calls for it.

I think where it gets tricky is when the suspension of disbelief that you are asked to accept becomes so stretched that you aren't really sure what the story is trying to convey.

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