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Why would a woman (as we see in this movie) hang around and approve of evil gang of men's actions?


And not have any personal beef or problems with any of it including one particular form of violation of women by that male gang as we see here?

Besides the obviousness of it being wrong and whatnot, why was that character in this movie basically like that? Cheers.

(Including the background of that character as written etc and directed intentionally by this film's movie making crew and how it all fits into the movie as well as it's themes etc. Cheers.)

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movies are usually based on conflict.
often, that depends on people making bad choices and decisions.
it's in the script, that's why.

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Women can be sadistic and evil. Duh!

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Yes indeed. And we have seen it in movies on however slightly rarer occasion too.

But then - films often go out of their way for instance to show that if women say become victims, not only is it a really big deal but it affects their whole life and worldview and they exact violent revenge. And we as audience are both supposed to AND DO find an understanding here as well and get behind it.

But have any of us seen this film and what do we think of that character there? Thanks.

P.S. It's in any case though a great movie, 9/10 I rate this one.

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Does that also shock and surprise you in ANY way King or are you fully used to it, in real life and (however lesser-wise) in cinema? 🧐🤔

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Are you yourself err "coping" with it or has the surprise shock value over this even in cinema not so much worn off your heart, mind, conscience etc? I THINK I'll cope with it fine folks, is that alright with most of you? Thanks. Regardless of whether or not you're a black and white world viewer or a deep complex thinker or an easy going even in this case identifier of bits and bops etc.

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Every gang of 1980s deranged high school Cretins needed a really hot and sadistic chick in their ranks and anyways I remember a bunch of prominent democrat women all saying Sarah Palin needs to be gangraped by all their black friends to quote "learn a lesson" so not sure what reality you are living in.

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"not sure what reality you are living in."

I think THIS ONE, like EVERYONE does. I wasn't even denying anything. Then again, truth here, truth there, 8 or 9 billion people on the planet.

And even if I imagine or REFERENCE alternate worlds, I don't actually live in them, lol. :)

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Yeah, "democrat women" are famously pro-rape. Everyone knows that.

lol, in what reality are YOU living in?

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One day folks I was planning either here or somewhere else to write an interesting, slightly controversial, and long essay on related subject matter. Complete with the "AH, SO NOW YOU UNDERSTAND WHY THIS IS THAT WAY" mantra and replica and in a way that perhaps will be understood by the general and the sensitive men and women among us equally. But something tells me, there's nothing TOO ground-breaking and surprising I may reveal, right, and I probably won't SWAY anyone or change anyone's minds here?

By the way, with regards to the LAW?

Let's say it does not work. Or gives short sentence instead. Does that mean we accept it and move on or do we challenge it here as well?

What about society? ALSO... What if I was to be intelligent and polite and not forceful etc? What if I make controversial statements but INOFFENSIVE ONES that we all understand no matter how much and for what reason we fear MEN in general who do same or similar offenses? And oh well...

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I also wanted to remind other viewers in general that, whether its a good or a "bad" thing or whether its entirely "right or wrong" I will leave it open up for debate, but thing is, real life briefly put aside (as its too big, in a flux and complex overall, despite many already well recognizable patterns in it that even the blind can see, and no offense to err "blind people"), but thing is...

In cinema, and not just American typical Hollywood entertainment industry, we really DO for the most part treat male and female villains, criminals or offenders of any sort generally differently than male counterparts.

And I often mentally as a result even forget that women can be err wrong as well but not completely so, its just that when men do evil deeds and when they do one particular one incredibly sensitive troubling wrongful matter, if they get away with it legally, in cinema, its not considered, let alone "wrong", taboo and excessive to exact violent revenge on them either. And we almost never see or hear or even get reference to, you know, the other side...

This also makes me wonder if ALL BAD THINGS and bad people should be necessarily "treated same" just by virtue of being bad alone, and women as a subject matter alone is a delicate theme, yeah, it especially applies to INNOCENT ones but even if they HAPPEN to be guilty too, we don't think or speak of them in very same vein as we do about MEN.

So moving arguments aside about "what imaginary world I or others may live in", we also to some extent live in a SENSITIVE AND MORAL WORLD THAT RECOGNIZES GENDER DIFFERENCES BOTH LOGICALLY, "PLEASANTLY" AND FOR THE GOOD OF US ALL, and that is also simply another FACT OF LIFE FOLKS.

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Maybe we can ask that to the actress Allison Mack, she recruited a lot of women to be abused by a cult leader.

There are bad women, just like bad men.

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