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Why is this considered a Halloween ripoff?


I've heard that for years and I don't get it. Other than the very basic premise of them both being slasher films, they don't have much else in common. If F13 is considered a ripoff of Halloween then why isn't every other slasher that came after it?

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Because F13 was the first major entry after Halloween. It's just the proximity that links them together like that. They are not similar films at all IMO, and I love them both for different reasons. F13 is one of the most atmospheric slasher movies ever.

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Jason died like 6 years before Micheal killed his sister, back in '63. Yeah, that rips off the plot to Halloween.

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I understand his point but at the same time it doesn't make sense. Jason Vorhees drowned at Camp Crystal Lake in 1957, six years before Michael Myers killed his sister in 1963. If he is kidding and I'm pretty sure that's the case, his post is rather clever.

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The crew admitted they only made this because they were inspired by Halloween's success. Also the writer took some things from Halloween like something happened a long time ago that was really like Michael killing his sister and the two people killed at the start of this.

That doesn't seem fair to say considering a lot of movies of the same genre have similar types of things in them. By your logic Nightmare on Elm Street is a rip off of Halloween since the events of it stem from something that happened in the past too.
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I would imagine it would be the Ten Little Indians concept of "and then there were none?" Body countdown to the final girl?

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The pov shots, using a knife and seeing only a hand, a past event starting it all, titles of the year and date, a man warning of danger, a special place where it all happened.

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Not to mention the basic similarities in score, the killer pov as device, that most body were dispatched and even revealed in exactly the same ways etc. If you can't see the similarities you just may not have seen enough films to understand technique well enough.

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If Friday the 13th is a rip off of Halloween then Halloween was a rip off of Texas Chainsaw Massacre. Truth is, the three movies have little in common other than a madman killing teenagers.

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In case you weren't aware, Alfred's Hitchcock's Psycho was what inspired John Carpenter to write Halloween and TCM was heavily inspired by the murders committed by Ed Gein. Where as this, the writer, Victor Miller, admitted that he purposely rode off the success of Halloween.

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I think the comparison is stupid. If this is a rip off of Halloween then Halloween is a ripoff of Black Christmas.

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The only rip-off from Psycho to TCM & Friday The 13th,it was the idea of making money with the lowest budget as possible in a Horror film...

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Victor Miller who wrote the screenplay and came up with the charecters, plot, etc. has stated many times that it is a rip off of Halloween. He did it intentionally at the request of the studio. Halloween was a hit so they hired him to come up with a similar movie.


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"Victor Miller who wrote the screenplay and came up with the charecters, plot, etc. has stated many times that it is a rip off of Halloween. He did it intentionally at the request of the studio. Halloween was a hit so they hired him to come up with a similar movie."

Ripping off Halloween was the idea that got the project started, but the resulting movie was fundamentally different than Halloween. For starters, F13 fits into 2 genres (slasher and whodunit) while Halloween only fits into one (slasher).

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Ripping off Halloween was the idea that got the project started, but the resulting movie was fundamentally different than Halloween. For starters, F13 fits into 2 genres (slasher and whodunit) while Halloween only fits into one (slasher).


Other notable differences include:

- The killer turns out to be a dead boy's psycho mother rather than an escaped mental patient.
- The youth camp setting is completely different to the typical American neighborhood setting of the fictitious Haddonfield, Illinois. "Halloween" was actually shot in a Los Angeles neighborhood whereas the original "Friday the 13th" was shot in remote townships of Hardwick, Blairstown & Hope, New Jersey.
- The "Ki ki ki, ma ma ma” theme is totally different from Carpenter's moody score.
- Future "Friday" installments feature the resurrected Jason as the increasingly zombie-like killer, evidently under the control of some diabolic entity, as revealed in Part IX, along with an imitation killer in Part V who was presumably also controlled by the demonic thing.

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It's pretty similar to Halloween in its structure and execution.

Halloween in a backwoods setting is how the movie makers basically described it.

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People always say this sort of thing. Halloween was supposed to be influenced by Black Christmas as well.

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Oh wow well, it is definitely not a Halloween rip off. This movie is actually loosely based on real events of the Girl Scout Murders. In the 1970s, a group of girl scouts went camping in the woods and an escaped convict from prison stalked three of the girl scouts, took them out of their tents and brutally murdered them in the woods. It is a true story. You should look it up. It is an absolutely terrifying story. Friday the 13th is about camp counselors that don't pay attention to the campers which lead to a drowning of a small boy (aka Jason); similar situation with the girl scouts. The counselors weren't paying attention to the warning signs of the escaped convict stalking them which eventually lead to the murders of those three girls...

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Not at all. This movie is not based on a true story. Its entirely fictional

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