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This overlooked bit of dialog is very relevant to today's world:

posted 2 years ago by christomacin (4529)
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"Only we have a problem here. And you know what it is? Both sides want to win. We want to win. We want to win regardless of the truth. And we want to win regardless of justice. Regardless of who’s guilty or innocent. Winning is everything! "

[–] HarlemEagle42 (16190) a year ago

...yeah...

[–] [email protected] (5501) 8 months ago

Oh course lawyers have always wanted to win! I have a friend who is a lawyer and she used to tell me about the old lawyer's rule. If the facts are on your side, argue the facts. If the law is on your side, argue the law. If neither are on your side, just argue.

[–] DoctorThirteen (10265) 8 months ago

I like that.

[–] Melton (2229) 8 months ago

A perfect encapsulation of the Leftist mindset.

For the Right, it is immoral to cheat. For the Left, it is immoral to lose.

[–] christomacin (4529) 8 months ago

Sounds like both sides, which I think was the film's point.

[–] Melton (2229) 8 months ago

In today’s world it’s not ‘both sides’, that dialogue applies only to the Left.

Again, the difference is that for the Right, it is immoral to cheat. For the Left, it is immoral to lose.

[–] raymondoz2007 (2047) 8 months ago

Thats why Jack Smith will be jailed in 2025.

[–] christomacin (4529) 8 months ago

What about Trump wanting to win at any cost that brought Jack Smith about? I also remind you I am directly quoting the film and wasn't the one who insisted on dragging "libs and cons" into this. What does this line mean in the context of the film? There is also a deleted scene (available on YouTube) of Pacino and some other attorneys playing basketball which makes clear what the later scene with Pacino running in the park with the joggers actually meant.

I'd prefer to discuss the film if anyone's interested.

[–] JFZ (1459) 8 months ago

What are you saying? A guilty criminal should get a lawyer who wants the truth? So you're pro-lynching because that's what they did to guilty as sin criminals. Not even waste time with trials.