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This movie has to get a pass for any plot holes


The movie is a dream and in ones dream, plot holes are acceptable

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Works for me.

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Assuming it’s not a dream, what are the plot holes?

Also, I’m not sure it’s meant to be a dream in the book series. I don’t know much about the books at all other than that the movie Return to Oz was based off another of the books and the movie treats oz as though it’s a real place and she even brings a key from oz back to Kansas.

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I always catch the plot holes. But because these happen in dreams, plot holes are acceptable

When Dorothy makes the Scarecrow slip off his pole, his stuffing falls out. "I just keep picking it up and putting it back in again". But if he was always on the pole, it would not fall out. And even if it did, he could not, "pick it up and put it back in again"

When she awakes from the dream as the house comes crashing down, Dorothy picks up her dog and looks around the house. She looks right out the window. She should have known she wasn't in Kansas before opening the front door

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When Dorothy gets to the scarecrow she doesn't know which way to go, as the road splits. The scarecrow doesn't seem to know either. Yet when they leave, they know the right way.

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True but because its a dream, plot holes are acceptable

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Maybe the scarecrow was not left out in the cornfield in the wintertime.

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There is no winter in the land of Oz

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"the movie treats oz as though it’s a real place"

I don't really give a shit about Oz or even the Alice in Wonderland stories, but I do consider the Spirit World in Hayao Miyazaki's Spirited Away to be real: I mean, the main character (Chihiro) got a magical hairband from there, and it was still there with her in the Human World, so...!

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Well not really holes, but the witch had many more chances to catch them on the way to the Emerald City.

At the end, the scarecrow said something like "I should have felt it for you" and the tin wood man said something like "I should have felt it in my heart", but they didn't get those until they saw the Wizard. Or at least, they didn't know they really already had them.

Anyway, Newhart was a dream and had all sorts of holes.

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Even in the non-dream parts?

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I didn't catch any plot holes during the non dream parts

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Oh, OK.

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LOL, you're the best!!

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My friend who didn’t see this movie until several years ago, thought that all the Witch had to do was shoot fireballs at our main characters and the slippers would have been hers. Why did she go through all that trouble?

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Its a dream so there will be plot holes. a person cannot die during a dream, otherwise they wake up.

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Right, I was simply bringing attention to another one that no one seems to be talking about.

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What if Oz is actually real but the Good Witch made Dorothy think it was a dream.

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I don't buy that

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