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"Cleopatra" as a name for black girls.


It's fine and dandy.

But Cleopatra Jones notwithstanding, there's a bit of cultural co-option here.

I hope they realize that Cleopatra was Greek, not black.

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Of Macedonian Greek ancestry--as white as Danes. People will dispute this, but they're simply wrong and can't be reasoned with.

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MY "WIFE" IS 100% GREEK...AND HER NAME IS CLEOPATRA.

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I don't get it. Is your wife actually Greek?

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100%...HER PARENTS WERE BOTH GREEK IMMIGRANTS.

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Okay. You know I'm Greek-American. Kudos if her parents actually named her Cleopatra.

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THEY CERTAINLY DID...SHE WAS BORN IN BELGIUM WHEN HER DAD WAS SERVING IN THE GREEK ARMY...THEY IMMIGRATED TO NEW YORK WHEN SHE WAS 7 OR 8...AND THEY BOTH BECAME CITIZENS...SOLID NEW YORKERS.


EXCEPT...THEY FORGOT TO NATURALIZE CLEO...SHE DISCOVERED THIS SHORTLY AFTER I MET HER...MADE LIFE PRETTY DIFFICULT FOR A WHILE...SHE EVENTUALLY TOOK THE TEST AND GOT HER CITIZENSHIP THOUGH.

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Okay, that's cool since blacks have sorta co-opted the name. As if.

There are a lot of Greek woman named Athena. But I've never known a Cleopatra.

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Considering there are actually women out there named Cleopatra and considering the rest of your biography this is actually believable.

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I MET HER WHILE "LIVING" IN NEW YORK FOR A FEW MONTHS IN MY 20S...SHE ENDED UP MOVING BACK TO CALIFORNIA WITH ME.

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What is your ethnicity?

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I AM WHITE AS ALL HELL...NORWEGIAN,POLISH,IRISH,SCOTTISH,GERMAN,A DASH OF NATIVE AMERICAN...VERY WHITE.

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So your not even polish?

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MY BAD...POLISH IS IN THERE...BUT NO...I AM NOT FULLY POLISH...FAR FROM IT.

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Nobody owns culture. "cultural appropriation" is such a b.s. term. The famous Cleopatra was certainly Greek/Macedon, but so what? Name your kid what you want.

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I was being a bit sarcastic. But I guarantee you this woman thinks Cleopatra was black.

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It seems to be an attempt to honor their heritage by naming the black girl after a famous african queen.

BUT, as pointed out, as that "african queen" was actually white,

it insteads seems to actually.... imply that there is NO actually BLACK african history worth celebrating as they had to go to a WHITE QUEEN for a cool name.

Which, is kind of... sad.


Now, if the mother has a clear story that explains the name differently such as saying....


she just has a thing for Ancient Egypt and loved Cleopatra, and named her daughter than because "strong woman" or something like that without the fake attempt to claim she was black,

then that is fine. Cool even.

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Agreed. They can look to West Africa or Nubia or Ethiopia for real black African heritage.

Cleopatra is part of my Greek heritage as a descendant of Ptolemy and Alexander the Great's conquerors.

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I claim her as part of MY hertigage because of the impact that Ancient Egypt and Ancient Greece both, had on the developement of Western Civilization.

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Well if you do it I can't stop Laqueesha from doing it. 🤣

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