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I wondered why Putin had never done this before, and now I think I see why. It is terrible. He is very boring - at least in the beginning when he is going back to the 800s and talking for ~20 minutes about the history of a completely different place. I thought he would have a stronger argument than to go back and rehash ancient history.
Talking about his old Russian claims to parts of Western Ukraine doesn't sway me. It is more reasonable to talk about the political leanings and discrimination the ethnic Russians have as well as the security claim to Crimea, and if US/NATO/Ukraine is going to keep attacking Russia and placing missiles so close to Russia - there is a security concern, just as the US could have with Guantanamo, for example.
Very bad performance from Putin. He needs to get some Western political advisors and speech writers.
If Putin had a point he should have organized and figured a better way to make it than rambling and put people to sleep at the very beginning of his interview. Very lame. There are a lot of people in the West who can make a better case for Russia than Putin.
LOL. Trumpists never saw real putin interview apart those 1 minutes snippets propagandists show them. Which they take out from 2 hour monologues.
That's how every putin interviews looks. He is mentally ill dictator. Very stupid one. Who lives inside his own insanity for a very long time. Can you finally see it now?
Everyone just laughs at those interviews. No one takes them seriously even in russia. It's crazy old hag mumbling to himself. That's how look people who think neighbors spy on them or 5G towers are after them.
>Talking about his old Russian claims to parts of Western Ukraine doesn't sway me. It is more reasonable to talk about the political leanings and discrimination the ethnic Russians have as well as the security claim to Crimea, and if US/NATO/Ukraine is going to keep attacking Russia and placing missiles so close to Russia - there is a security concern, just as the US could have with Guantanamo, for example.
US/NATO/Ukraine is only "attacking Russia" because there are Russian troops in Ukraine. No-one was attacking Russia prior to the special military operation.
>If Putin had a point he should have organized and figured a better way to make it than rambling and put people to sleep at the very beginning of his interview. Very lame. There are a lot of people in the West who can make a better case for Russia than Putin.
Also, I think you forget that the revanchism and "historical claims" to Ukraine have always been part and parcel of the Kremlin's justification for invading. Putin did a speech on the day that the launched the operation, openly chastising Ukrainian statehood.
Putin starts to get the point about 17 minutes into the interview after a long history lecture that he could have just skipped.
His general thesis as decribed by Tucker Carlson is that Putin believes parts of Western Ukraine belong to Russia because within the Soviet Union around the 20s there were different administrative systems being tried; under Lenin, and then under Stalin. I've seen maps that show the history of how the lands in this area changed soverignty - and the people as well, a point that Putin stresses.
What you need to talk about is about decolonization of russia. Since none of those land belongs to her. She occupied lands of other people. And countries.
Starting with Kaliningrad being stolen from Germany
Karelia being stolen form Finland
Sakhalin islands being stolen from Japan
Vladivostok being stolen from China
Chechnya being stolen from chechens
And on and on.
Real russia is basically moscow oblast. Everything else they have stolen and occupied from other countries and local people.
Why trumpists don't raise this important question is beyond me. Chehens tried to get their land from them and freedom. And we all know they bombed them and occupied again.
Why did we fight a civil war with the South?
Wanna let a bunch of radical Muslims take a whole Russian state and drive it into barbarism and ruin?
It's not russian state lol. It's chechen state and russia occupied it. Chechens can do whatever they want with it. There is also Dagestan next to it. Which is inhabitant by dagestani people. Then there is Tatarstan. Why do trumpists don't raise that important question I dont even know. But for some reason they are obsessed with people in east Ukraine.
These are "republics of russia". In other words - lands and indigenous people who were occupied by russians and forced to become russians, forced to speak russian language and to forget their own. russia does this on puprose. Everything is in russian.And even if local language has some status - no one really speaks on it because everything is on russian. So young people now barely know it. And older people are dying out.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Republics_of_Russia
Republic of Adygea - titular population - Altai (37.0%)
Chechen Republic - Chechens (96.4%)
Chuvash Republic - Chuvash (63.7%)
Kabardino-Balkar Republic - Balkars (13.7%) Kabardians (57.1%)
Komi Republic - Komi (22.3%)
Mari El Republic - Mari (40.1%)
Republic of Bashkortostan - Bashkirs (31.5%)
Republic of Buryatia - Buryats (32.5%)
Republic of Dagestan - Thirteen indigenous nationalities (96.1%)
Republic of Ingushetia - Ingush (96.4%)
Republic of Kalmykia - Kalmyks (62.5%)
Republic of North Ossetia–Alania Ossetians (68.1%)
Republic of Sakha (Yakutia) - Yakuts (55.3%)
Republic of Tatarstan - Tatars (53.6%)
Republic of Tuva - Tuvans (88.7%)
Udmurt Republic Udmurts (24.1%)
None of them are russian territories and must be free when russia will fall and tehir hitler wannabe will die. russians occupied them and then moved themselves to their lands to assimilate.
Oh, one of those.
shareHere is a history lesson for you about Yakutia. Since you trumpists don't read and search anything on your own. And only read what russian propaganda shows you.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sakha_Republic
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Russian conquest
The Tsardom of Russia began its conquest of the region in the 17th century, moving east after the defeat of the Khanate of Sibir. Tygyn, a king of the Khangalassky Sakha, granted territory for Russian settlement in return for a military pact that included war against indigenous rebels of all North Eastern Asia (Magadan, Chukotka, Kamchatka and Sakhalin). Kull, a king of the Megino-Khangalassky Sakha, began a Sakha conspiracy by allowing the first stockade construction.
In August 1638, the Moscow Government formed a new administrative unit with the administrative center of Lensky Ostrog (Fort Lensky), the future city of Yakutsk.
The arrival of Russian SETTLERS at the remote Russkoye Ustye in the Indigirka delta is also believed to date from the 17th century. The Siberian Governorate was established as part of the Russian Empire in 1708.
Russian SETTLERS began to form a community in the 18th century, which adopted certain Sakha customs and was often called Yakutyane or Lena Early Settlers. However, the influx of later settlers had assimilated themselves into the Russian mainstream by the 20th century.
Here is history lesson for Tatarstan
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_Tatarstan
After the Russian invasion
After 1552 the khanate was governed by Kazan Palace's Office formed in Moscow. In 1555 a bishop was appointed in Kazan with a mandate to baptize the Idel-Ural peoples. Many churches and monasteries were built, and Russian peasants and craftsmen were RESSETLED within Tatarstan. At the same time ethnic Tatars were REMOVED from Kazan proper as well as regions close to rivers and roads. Under pressure from the Russians many Tatars emigrated to the Upper Kama, Trans-Kama area, Bashkortostan, the Urals and Siberia during the 16th and 17th centuries. The result was a decline in agriculture, industry and commerce throughout the region. The local population was forced to pay the yasaq tax. Some part of the Tatar nobility were included in the nobility of the Russian Empire; many underwent baptism to keep their privileges.
Tuva
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tuva
From 1758 to 1911, Tuva was part of China's Qing dynasty and administered by Outer Mongolia. During the Xinhai Revolution in China, Tsarist Russia formed a separatist movement among the Tuvans while there were also pro-independence and pro-Mongol groups. Tsar Nicholas II agreed to the third petition by Tuva's leadership in 1912, establishing a protectorate over the then-independent state. Some Russians, such as merchants, travellers, and explorers, had already SETTLED in Tuva at that time. Tuva became nominally independent as the Uryankhay Republic before being turned into a Russian protectorate as Uryankhay Krai under Tsar Nicholas II, on 17 April 1914.
Every piece of territory that is russia on the maps now - has been occupied by russians. By force. Then they moved their settlers there who then declared they are locals now and that it belong to them.
Same thing they did in Ukraine. Trumpists are just too stupid to read history. share