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Candace question that was never answered


A few years ago, I saw Candace interviewed and she asked why the black community (and, thus, America at large) is consistently asked to elevate criminals and thugs to hero status. A damn good question. How many black women and men live day to day the way everyone else does, working hard, trying to pay bills, etc., only to be upstaged by scum like George Floyd (and he is scum; regardless of what you think/believe about his death, his record as a scumbag cannot be disputed). What about the great black thinkers and artists of today? They exist. Why aren't they exalted? I'm an old school liberal, which means I consider any and all Americans my neighbors, my peers, and I hate to see any of my fellow Americans degraded the way the establishment (sometimes called "the left") degrades black Americans.

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It's a straw man argument. Candace is notorious for that. Protesters as a whole, were not claiming GF to be a hero. Maybe his daughter, and a few others, but not protesters as a whole. People were protesting the way in which he died...while a cop kneeled on his neck while he pleaded for his life, and by standers asked cop to get off his neck. Heck, lots child murder rapists (John Couey, Joseph Edward Duncan, etc.) have been taken into custody in the most gentle manner. George's past does justify him dying in that manner, despite his past.
George is/was seen more of a poster child of police brutality. Not a hero. For decades, Blacks have stated this kind of thing happens more often than thought, and primarily to Blacks, (although it does happen to others races too, but at a lower rate). So with GF, this is finally recorded, and televised for the world to see. So that is why George got all the attention he received.
Candace is quick, sharp, and savvy. She is not always factual. Those who like her are so mesmerized by how articulate she is, they don't fact check her. She mixes truth with lies and conjecture, because she knows that will get the result she is looking for. For example, saying that George held a gun to a pregnant woman's stomach during a home invasion. There is no evidence she was pregnant, and Internet stories stating this have been discredited. It is easy to hobble together some pictures and fabricate things on the internet, and get people to believe it, especially if they want to believe it. Candace did the same thing regarding Ahmaud Arbery...said he was wearing Timberlands boots when he was shot, and therefore not actually jogging. This was not true either, as his autopsy report catalogued what he was wearing, and Timberlands boots were not part of his attire that day.
And Black people do praise other Blacks such as the Obamas, the Williams Sisters, Oprah, The Roots, I could go on and on. Not sure why Candace missed this.

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If you think GF isn't exalted as a hero by ignorant people, you're not paying attention.

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I second that. Strongly.
The guy got a fucking GOLDEN CASKET.

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Issue is, some are not paying enough attention. We all know SOME people see GF as a hero. This hyper focus on those SOME, and not the entirety, is to justify what happened to him. Deflection. It also paints a negative picture of Black people at the same time, stating that they only worship criminals and no hard working Black people.

The reality is he was a victim of police violence, regardless of some seeing him as a hero, martyr or what have you.
He was no angel. We get it. His last conviction was like 12 years in the past, and he served his sentence.
If you are mad that people like GF are seen by some as a hero, look at the catalyst that caused it: Being killed, in front of the world, and yet the murderer walks free, and it took protest and such to bring an arrest.

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...working hard, trying to pay bills, etc.


white benchmarks created for white people. Floyd was a Black man struggling to stay afloat in a white system. That he was not welcome within that vile system was made abundantly clear on May 25, 2020.

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Cry me a river.

On second thought, don't.

I'm an old school liberal, but I've heard enough crying from people living in the most affluent country on the planet.

Life is tough.

Get over it.

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Easy to say when the system coddles you, while working diligently to destroy – and kill – others.

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"What about the great black thinkers and artists of today? They exist. Why aren't they exalted?"

Whenever they are, the racists complain about it.

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