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TCM showing Gone With the Wind at 8pm tonight.


I have always been lukewarm about Wind and think it's because I not attracted to Vivian Leigh. What makes it so beloved among so many?

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She was there and Henry the eighth was there.

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I've never seen it. I've never seen Casablanca either. I doubt I'd like either movie. There are very few pre-1970s movies that I like.

Quite a few years ago I thought I'd like "film noir" movies, but when I watched some of them, they weren't anything like I imagined they would be.

The type of old B&W movie I want to see probably doesn't exist. I want to see one about a fedora and trench coat-wearing "hard boiled detective," and I don't want a single scene to take place during the day, unless it's raining hard. Even then, most of the scenes should be at night, and raining and windy. He should have a seedy office in the city, such as St. Louis in the 1940s, on at least the third floor of an old brick building with a window facing the street. He should have a sassy 30-something bleach blonde secretary with long, red-painted nails and too much makeup. He should do inner dialog voice-over narration. He should carry a snub-nose .38 revolver (e.g., Colt Detective Special). There should be a Western Electric model 202 phone in his office, and an old Remington typewriter. There should be at least one scene of him using an outdoor phone booth at night during a thunder storm, preferably one in the middle of nowhere. His car should be a run-down 1930-something Plymouth business coupe.

I'm more interested in the atmosphere than the specific plot, but I guess a murder case with an interesting twist or two would be fine.

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VSp3D_nOH70&t=38s

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Nice... that secretary is perfect. The style of the office is good too, complete with the frosted glass windows with the detective's name in big black letters.

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A little more Dixon Hill
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MhL7GlzobEs

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The clothes are good, but I wouldn't want Patrick Stewart as the main character. Humphrey Bogart would be good for a completely serious movie, or, if I wanted the movie to have some comedy, Eugene Roche playing his "Luther H. Gillis" character. His secretary was played by Sheree North...

https://www.historyforsale.com/productimages/jpeg/275062.jpg

... and she was good too. His character was created and shown in the '80s, but he was always talking about the old days, so a hypothetical movie with those two in the '40s or '50s could have been great.

They even had the night, rain, and wind in one of his scenes, while he was doing voice-over narration no less:

https://i.imgur.com/h8kIHM3.png

Also, it would have to be in black and white.

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Kramer's mom!
https://img1.wsimg.com/isteam/ip/130b4cfa-c5c3-4eb0-88a3-7822a3ad770c/ff2001be-98c6-439e-8f6e-861565e7f47c.png

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LOL, yeah, that's her. Of course, the hypothetical movie would've had to have been made when she was much younger. She was born in '32 so about 1965 would have been the time to make it. She was 33 and Roche was 37. It could have still been set in the '40s and filmed in black and white.

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I do declare

The opening theme - one of the all-time greats
Clark Gable
Vivian Leigh (she is great in the role)
Civil War setting
Epic scale

It should be noted that while it opened to immense popularity, it was not, and is not, unconditionally praised by critics (see "Critical response" and "Critical re-evaluation" in Wikipedia article). I have always enjoyed the film, and is one of the movies I own.

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The intermission is really good if you stock up on some good snacks!

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one of the three movies i own.

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It's not only a highly entertaining movie, it's one a sensible person can learn from!

First, I'm old enough to remember the Civil Rights Movement, segregation, and Jim Crow. So I first saw the movie when I was 12 or so, and it was a revelation, a look into the mind of the sort of people I'd never encountered in my life, the dedicated racists. I not only enjoyed the film, but I got my first clue as to what was going on in the minds of those assholes! But then, even at 12, I could understand movies about antiheroes, movies where you can enjoy the drama without condoning the action of a flawed or dead-wrong protagonist. Apparently that's too much for some people these days.

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I forced myself to watch it a couple of years ago, as I felt obliged to at least see it once - I’m glad I did.

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