Suicide


Isn't this fucked up?

Suicide hotline shares data with for-profit spinoff, raising ethical questions

The Crisis Text Line’s AI-driven chat service has gathered troves of data from its conversations with people suffering life’s toughest situations.

https://www.politico.com/news/2022/01/28/suicide-hotline-silicon-valley-privacy-debates-00002617

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Altruism doesn't exist.

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So they've anonymised the data, which is debatable, and are selling it so companies can write better scripts for customer service desk operators. Yeah, that doesn't sound good.

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I worked in marketing, and they sell the shit over and over and over..... and of course the CIA gets their dirty drug-dealing hands on it.

Nothing is anonymous, either.. The Big Tech companies have admitted to so much, yet, people don't seem to read those articles, or see Fuckerberg testimony, etc etc.

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i know i'm running the risk of sounding like a boring contrarian, but this doesn't seem crazy to me.

the non-profit is getting a revenue stream for providing anonymized data.

that doesn't seem bad to me.

i can understand the notion that using someone's darkest moment to raise money, & someone using that in turn to fine tune their process seems intuitively morally icky. sure. but intuitive responses aren't always the best responses.

in a utilitarian big picture sense i think it's a win for both, and if the charity i worked for did something like that i wouldn't have a problem with it. it's money in the bank.

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Suicide hotline shares data with for-profit spinoff, raising ethical questions


The bulk of those who called in won't be around long enough to get angry about such things

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Let’s definitely hope that’s not the case

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Reading headlines like the ones in The OP gives us all cause to wonder whether or not life is worth the hassle

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I’m going to keep on keeping on…

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It leaves a bad taste, that’s for sure. None of the people who called for help consented to any of this…this doesn’t seem right in any way

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You're right - it's not right, but I'm guessing most wouldn't hear about this unless I posted it, which is why I posted it.

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64 posts.. You've got a LONG way to go before hitting 1,000. Until then, you're just a fly on the wall.

Don't take it personally... It's just hazing. Tomorrow's prank will be something else though!

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Isn't obtaining someone's details, that's just about to end it all a little counter productive?

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Na, I'd guess most won't do it, otherwise, they'd probably do it and not call some silly number in the first place.

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I’m reminded of the Bill Hicks skit asking why a rock band would intentionally kill its audience with backward Satanic messages, lol.

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See, now THAT made perfect sense!

Which might be why no one paid any attention to him, until he was dead. Even less attention to Mort Sahl, who was JFK's favorite comedian (and writer on the 1960 campaign), but who wouldn't yield to Old Man Kennedy and the underlings when JFK got in, and it cost him his career, especially when he was a deputy in Jim Garrison's office. I've never been given an offer I couldn't refuse, but going from #1 to almost obscurity has to be the worst, despite the fact that he worked up until 2020, when COVID hit.

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