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PT Anderson films vs Tarantino films.


Let me preface this rant by saying I quite enjoy Tarantino films. "Jackie Brown" is probably my favorite. I have watched Tarantino films in their entirety approx. 200 times. That's a guess, but between Dogs, Pulp Fiction, and JB it's probably close. I have not watched PTA films in their entirety as many times. Which brings me to the reason I love PTA films so much: characterization. Every one of his films dives deep into the main characters. Even the peripheral characters are given a chance to show humanity. I can't listen to the slow circus music of "Boogie Nights" without thinking of the whole film and all the characters and their beauty and their flaws. The same way I can't listen to Aimee Mann's music on "Magnolia" without thinking of the whole twisting tale of that movie. Robard's deathbed confessions are amazing. His regrets. "I lost my love".

Again, Tarantino is great. The film world would be much duller without him. His films, however, are more a tribute to genres that he himself enjoys. Plus there are few people that can write realistic dialogue as well as him. I just don't come away from his films feeling
"touched". The fight scene in "Kill Bill" between Thurman and Liu is one of my favorite fight scenes of all time, but I can watch it and walk away and not think about it again. Tarantino films are a short story read while PTA films are novels.

Another aspect is the people themselves. I don't profess to know either man, but in hours of interviews I have watched of them both Tarantino seems like a guy I would love to meet at a bar and shoot the bull with, but I would not invite him home to watch a movie. Anderson on the other hand seems more accessible and open to dialogue from other sources. With Tarantino it's the "Tarantino Show". With Anderson his ego(which I am sure is monstrous) is held in check. I just like the way he answers question more. In a somewhat recent interview with Henry Rollin, PTA said that the key to life(and of course making movies) is letting go of fear. I sincerely believe that. Even us "normal" 9-5 people can relate to that. I myself have wasted time and opportunity being afraid of failure or afraid of someone else's opinion. To end this rant, I will leave you with one of my favorite PTA quotes. When asked how he was so good at writing dialogue for characters doing drugs(specifically the scene in BN where Lewis and Graham are locked in a bedroom doing coke) he replied, "Because I've done a lot of coke and I've had those conversations".

For those of you who read my post, I thank you. And yes, Bolivian marching powder was involved, in the true spirit of the two fine directors I have spoken of.

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Both seem to have big egos. But I would rather hang out with Tarantino and talk movies.

I was really suprised that Anderson was pissed at Fincher for fight club about his scenes about testicular cancer. And I pretty much lost all of respect for pta as a person after that.

A director and writer should have all the freedom in the world.

Back to their movies. I love hard eight and inherent vice.

And I love pulp fiction and reservoir dogs.

I also love natural born killers but I don't think it counts as a Tarantino film.

As a filmmaker I would give tarantino a small victory.

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Have you ever seen Magnolia? There Will Be Blood? Those movies will age well.

And what was PTA's deal with testicular cancer? I didn't hear about that.

And yes a director should have total freedom. It's his/her name on the product.

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Magnolia is a much hated movie and I felt he was just trying too hard.

And ddl was great in there will be blood but Paul Dano was pretty weak imo.

Pta's father died of testicular cancer I believe and that's why he was pissed which is a dumb reason.

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Anderson's movies just do nothing for me. I think most of Tarantino's work sucks, but his first three movies are so good, I have to go with him.

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Which films have you seen of Anderson's? I am not looking for an argument. I'm genuinely interested in the films you have seen and why you didn't care for them.

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Boogie Nights
Magnolia
There Will Be Blood

I thought the last two were too pretentious and over-the-top. It's been a long time since I saw the first. I don't recall feeling the same way, but the subject, the story and the characters just did not appeal to me.

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Fair enough. Pretentious? Perhaps, but PTA backs it up.

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Pretentious suggests that one does not actually back it up, though.

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Busted. The shame here is that my mother was an English teacher.

My edited reply is, "PTA is not pretentious. He is good enough and is working with the top actors. We are all very fortunate that Phillip Seymour Hoffman and PTA had a bond. For an actor that checked out early he sure had a few performances that were award worthy.

He is the best director of his generation.

Edit-I think that was my last edit, lol. Thank you for your patience.

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I obviously do not agree with PTA not being pretentious, but fair enough. To each his/her own, of course.

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His. 47 y/old. I grew up in the 80s. Acid washed jeans on girls so tight you would think it was painted on. Big hair. Not bare "down there" but not unruly. GnR, Crue, cool music coming out of the Seattle area.

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I'm 10 years younger, so I never owned one of those acid washed jeans. They seem to be back, though, so maybe I should give it a try.🤔

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Do you like the Coen Bros?

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Uhm...

Sorry, Buck, I don't think we have the same taste in movies!😆👍

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Reported for not agreeing with me. In all seriousness, I want differing opinions to help me broaden my scope.

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I'm afraid I can't help you with that. I like Bollywood movies and K-pop, something that is NOT appreciated around here!😆

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I enjoy some K-pop females at times. The industry over there is so brutal though. It's like watching dog fighting. There will always be a loser.

Edit- I dig this K-pop. Bet you didn't think I knew a song, lol.

https://youtu.be/zE_eJboCpSI

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You dirty old man!😆

It's depressing seeing the dark side exposed. Takes all the fun out of it.😕

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PTA. And it's not close.

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Tarantino makes fun, watchable films. Great dialogue. They just don't dig deep into the human experience. This isn't really a "who's a better director" thread, it's a "what kind a film do you like more" thread. Do you think DDL would ever be in a Tarantino film? Not going to happen. DDL chose PTA. What better endorsement is that?

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Nothing against Anderson but I'll take QT all day

He covers various genres, includes great soundtracks, kicks it in the teeth with crazy dialogue you can't help but love...

Tarantino for the win!

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And I totally get that. And the soundtracks are amazing.

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i like pta a lot more. i like tarantino, love several of his films, but there's so often an archness & cynicism in them that leaves me feeling like i've never really entered their worlds. i think he's almost always entertaining, incredibly clever, but ultimately i'm often left like i'm watching a very talented guy showing off.

the exception to that is probably once upon a time..., which i think is really the first time (perhaps jackie browne excepted) that he's really allowed himself to be openly emotional & sentimental. maybe old age is softening him up.

pta is one of the greats to me. i think his best films (phantom thread, punch drunk, the master, boogie nights) are truly great & rank among my very favourite films by anyone.

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Not "Magnolia"? I don't get a PTA fan listing their favorites without mentioning Magnolia. It was brilliantly done. Every actor laid it out and Robards gave a fitting performance for that to be one of his lasts.

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