The attack on the Jews has started! - Politics Discussion

[–] TheHardSell (641) 21 days ago

The Iranian media says that no hypersonic missiles were used in the striked on Israel

The Iranian missiles faced Israeli air defenses, American defense assets and fighters in the Middle East, Jordanian fighters, as well as French and British fighters.

Iran successfully hit the Nevatim air base, where the F-35s are stationed

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[–] TrentnQuarantino (8566) 19 days ago

It has also never been reported that Iran possesses hypersonic missile technology.

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[–] FootOfDavros (6793) 21 days ago

The hypocrisy of Israel is further exposed by their "exact a price" from Iran response to this.

Wasn't Iran justified in their actions in retaliation for Israel's attack on their Syrian embassy?

After all the repeated line from Israel is that they are justified in their slaughter of innocent Palestians as it was JUSTIFIED as a response to the Hamas attacks.

Iran acts in exactly the same manner to a deadly attack on their people and now Israel say they will exact revenge. LOL - So Israel effectively says that if they are hit by further Hamas attacks, they will be justified in response to their own behaviour!

I guess the decision makers in Tel Aviv must be anti-semites then...

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[–] JoWilli (15303) 21 days ago

35,000 innocent Ukrainians have been slaughtered and no one cares. where are the protests?

Iran–Israel proxy conflict
16 February 1985[50] – ongoing
(39 years, 1 month, 4 weeks and 1 day)

Ongoing:

Iran reinforces Syria and Hezbollah
Israel tries to prevent weapon transfers to Hezbollah
2006 Lebanon War ends in military stalemate
Beginning of the ongoing Gaza–Israel conflict in June 2006
Israel tries to stop Iranian nuclear program[51]
Iran grows major spheres of influence in the Middle East[52]
Formation of the Arab–Israeli alliance
Iran provides munitions to Hamas and Palestinian Islamic Jihad (PIJ) in Gaza Strip
Escalation to a direct conflict between the two countries (2024 Iran–Israel conflict).

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[–] FootOfDavros (6793) 20 days ago

That has literally nothing to do with what I posted.

Did you mean to reply to the OP?

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[–] JoWilli (15303) 20 days ago

yeah it does, like I said no one cares about Ukrainian kids being killed.

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[–] FootOfDavros (6793) 20 days ago

I never mentioned Ukraine at all.

So like I said, nothing to do with my post...

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[–] JoWilli (15303) 20 days ago

I know thats my point. you and others would rather talk about Israel because its cool and edgy to be a anti-Semite.

even though Putin is committing genocide against innocent people. no one cares.

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[–] FootOfDavros (6793) 20 days ago

I think I've already called you out on here as the anti-semite due to your belief in "cause and effect". You effectively said Israeli should not exist as if it didn't there would be no Hamas. That's pretty disgusting and makes you an anti-semite.

Your irrelevant point about Ukraine is also absolute garbage as - as has been pointed out to you before - people very strongly came out in favour of Ukraine, from social media to accepting massively raised utility prices as part of doing the right thing to defeat Russia.

So basically you're an anti-semite and talking garbage in your attempted deflection...

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[–] JoWilli (15303) 20 days ago

nice try at pulling a Skavau. but it wont work on me. I am leet and therefore untrollable. you get a cookie for trying. 🍪

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[–] samoanjoes (51176) 20 days ago

The difference: Israel is claiming that Palestinian land is theirs and it's not just about revenge against Hamas.

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[–] FootOfDavros (6793) 20 days ago

Exactly. Getting all the land is all it's really been about for Israel.

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[–] samoanjoes (51176) 20 days ago

Palestine is claiming the same thing though. The only difference is that Israel has to defeat Hamas.

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[–] FootOfDavros (6793) 20 days ago

That's certainly true - Palestine doesn't need to defeat Hamas!

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[–] samoanjoes (51176) 20 days ago

They should because they're fucking it up for themselves.

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[–] FootOfDavros (6793) 20 days ago

Same thing as saying Israel should be trying to defeat Netanyahu and his mentalist colleagues (although I think lots of Israelis actually are at the moment...).

But then fundamentalists on both sides help keep American arms dealers happy (at the US tax payers expense), so it's all working out well.

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[–] JoWilli (15303) 20 days ago

its working well in Ukraine as well, but no is complaining about innocent people being killed or the billions that has been sent to Ukraine.

whats odd, is that you dont see any liberals or smug Hollywood liberals whining or protesting anything.

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[–] FootOfDavros (6793) 20 days ago

You must be really stupid.

People are complaining - and have been for a long time - about the Russian attack on Ukraine and support Ukraine over Russia.

However our arms money is being sent to UKRAINE not Russia, i.e. the side people want to see prevail, so what exactly are they going to protest about numbskull? 😂

It's the EXACT opposite situation with Israel. They are the aggressors and our arms money is being sent to finance their slaughtering of innocents. THAT'S what people are protesting about.

You don't have to be particularly intelligent to understand that and realise that's why we aren't seeing people out in the streets, waving Russian flags and demand our governments do something and stop arming Ukraine...

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[–] JoWilli (15303) 20 days ago

I guess you forgot about Oct 7.

if we were living in 1942, you would be the person supporting Japan and Germany.

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[–] FootOfDavros (6793) 20 days ago

Of course I haven't forgotten October!

That's the exact "cause and effect" point YOU raised leading to YOUR logical conclusion that Israel should never have been created as otherwise Hamas could not exist.

That is what makes you - by your own logic - a raving anti-semite.

But that has sweet FA to do with the point I made re the nonsense of your irrelevant Ukraine comments does it?

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[–] JoWilli (15303) 20 days ago

you cant rick roll me or troll me, but anyways, you know I support Israel and their quest to rid the World of terrorism.

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[–] FootOfDavros (6793) 20 days ago

Well of course I appreciate you "support" Israel. You're going to get people with extremist views on either side of any conflict.

But given that I have no horse in the race, it's just funny for me to point out the logic failures of those that do. Like your "cause and effect" only working when you get choose where the "cause" starts otherwise you become an anti-semite (!) or the just plain nonsense of that Ukraine comparison, given Russia and Israel are the aggressors / invaders.

Clearly pointing out such obvious logic failures isn't trolling - but that's further emphasised by the fact that it was YOU who initially replied to me with a comment which was completely irrelevant to my point re Israel's hypocrisy with respect to Iran...

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[–] JoWilli (15303) 19 days ago

Russia is the aggressor but no one is complain about the genocide in Ukraine. its been 2 plus years and I havent seen any posts on here condemning Russia or Putin. Israel is just defending themselves like the US did after 12/7 and 9/11, by your logic that makes America and Allies the aggressor.

also dont forget about the 81 million votes. this is what you guys wanted.

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[–] FootOfDavros (6793) 19 days ago

LOL - "You guys"? I'm not even American you numpty.

But no worries, I understand your misunderstanding - Those of you who are, and are daft enough to be conditioned think it's all us vs them, go all in with such nonsense...

It's a bit like pro Israel or Muslim fundamentalist extremists. There's no nuance. No actual thinking for yourself.

That's why you still try harping on about the Ukraine situation even although I've shown the utter nonsense behind your "argument". It's just that you've read someone trying to use that as a deflection away from Israel's behaviour and think "I'll try that as well".

But it's completely moronic to try and do so:- Russia is the aggressor. Israel is the aggressor. We in the west supply weapons to Israel. Hence protests against that and for Palestine.

It's pretty obvious to anyone with a functioning brain that there is no equivalence to the Ukraine situation as we are supplying THEM with the weapons.

Oh and yes - Your post 9/11 actions as a deflective defence is also hilarious as most people outside of the USA thought the US actions then were despicable, counterproductive and nothing to do with the 9/11 attacks...

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[–] JoWilli (15303) 19 days ago

oh my bad. are you friends with Skavau? he is a numpty. lol

anyways. like I was saying before. you wont see anyone complaining about the genocide in Ukraine. I checked posts on the past 10 pages and cant find any. but dozens of anti Semite posts.

Israel isnt the aggressor, they are more advanced and blessed by God. to a gentile it makes them look like an aggressor. maybe Hamas shouldnt have attacked The Lion of Judah.

I support Israel and their quest to rid the region of extreme terrorists.

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[–] FootOfDavros (6793) 19 days ago

I don't know who this Skavau person is. You mentioned them before.

I definitely can see what your position is on the issue. I'd just say try to reason for yourself with some of the arguments you make. As I've said that "cause and effect" thing is terrible because ultimately it leads back to you back to saying no Israel means no Hamas means no innocent Jewish deaths. So by that logic you become an anti-semite, who's against the creation of Israel.

And re Ukraine, people are complaining and anti-Russia but we - in the west - are helping in the right side here. We cannot do anything further as Russia is a nuclear power.

I think the best, logical defense of Israel is not to be deflective or seek excuses elsewhere but to admit you believe their best policy is the complete and utter annihilation of the Palestinian population and to take the land, as otherwise both sides are fated to kill innocent people forever more. Once a genocide of the Palestinians was complete at least there'd be peace.

Someone actually said that on here a couple of months ago. Now it's a horrible prospect but at least it's an honest appraisal of an outcome which would stop every after conflict...

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[–] JoWilli (15303) 16 days ago

I thought all limeys knew each other? lol

anyways, I never said I am for the complete and utter annihilation of the Palestinian population. I said I support Israel. in war, people die. its not the Israelis fault that Hamas was unprepared for this war. maybe they shouldn't have written a check their butt cant cash. why isnt Egypt or another muslim country helping or taking in the palestinian refugees?

so its ok for Russia to kill innocent people because they have nukes? thats not a very good excuse. maybe before Russia invaded, Joe and Z should have asked for a meeting with Putin for the best way to resolve the situation. after all Joe said that Putin was skeered of him.

Putin has killed over 35,000 civilians but you dont see any liberals whining or complaining or chanting death to america.

in the long history of Great Britain, there are lots of example of genocide and oppression. maybe you should judge your own country first before judging others.

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[–] FootOfDavros (6793) 16 days ago

I know you never said you were for the complete annihilation of Palestine and the genocide of the people.

What I said was that you should be saying you're for that - reasoning that at least it would bring a final solution to the conflict - rather than continuing to have to come up with deflective / nonsensical arguments to defend Israel's horrific behaviour.

e.g. Your "cause and effect" claiming Israel should never have been created, making false equivalence arguments re Ukraine, even although everyone is sound in the knowledge we are supplying weapons for the defence of Ukraine rather than to help facilitate massacres in Gaza. And now, most bizarrely (!), an appeal that you should be in favour of unjustified slaughter because your country did it in the past! 😂 That's worse than the WW2 argument...

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[–] JoWilli (15303) 16 days ago

how do you reason with terrorists? even Russia couldnt defeat them in 10 years and the US and its allies spent 20 years trying to defeat terrorists. (dont forget that Great Britian also killed innocent people) the palenstians voted for Hamas. its the same thing as what happened when Hilter was voted in. none of the other muslim countries dont really seem to care there are muslim terrorists plaguing the world. I would rather live in a communist country then live in terrorist muslim country ie Gaza.

why do you keep making up stuff I didnt say? I never said that Israel should have not been created. you should read the Old Testament and learn about the struggles of the Hebrew people.

by your logic, Ukraine is the aggressor and is committing genocide against Russia. you cant have it both ways.

again, I support the US, Great Britain and Israel and their quest to defeat terrorism.

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[–] samoanjoes (51176) 20 days ago

The difference is that Palestinians claim they don't don't support Hamas but do absolutely nothing about them. I have yet to see any Palestinian protest holding signs that say denounce Hamas.

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[–] FootOfDavros (6793) 20 days ago

Maybe most of them don't?

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[–] samoanjoes (51176) 20 days ago

I think they're too scared to speak out.

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[–] FootOfDavros (6793) 20 days ago

Maybe.

But it's also possible the destruction of Gaza means that most of them now support Hamas as their only chance. I don't know 🤷🏼‍♂️...

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[–] samoanjoes (51176) 20 days ago

Here in Toronto, we've had countless pro-Palestine protests. They're safe to protest here, but I have yet to see any Muslims have an anti-Hamas protest.

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[–] FootOfDavros (6793) 20 days ago

Same here.

Maybe you won't - Like I was saying, maybe the vast majority of Palestinians (never mind Muslims in general, I'm sure they would) support Hamas. So we're unlikely to see anti-Hamas rallies ahead of anti-Israel protests, especially given what has happened to Gaza.

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[–] JoWilli (15303) 20 days ago

well obviously, if you protest in a regime like that then you and your whole family could be killed.

there is a reason you dont see people protesting in a communist or terrorist controlled society.

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[–] samoanjoes (51176) 20 days ago

But I don't see Muslims in other countries protest them either.

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[–] JoWilli (15303) 20 days ago

yeah, thats what is odd. you dont see any other muslim county helping or taking in palenstian refugees. now we have muslims in america chanting death to america.

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[–] samoanjoes (51176) 19 days ago

Notice how they complain about how many Jews are in America, but are silent when Muslims are in other countries?

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[–] JoWilli (15303) 19 days ago

thats because everyone is afraid of muslims and dont want to offend them lest a worst curse happen to america. its cool and edgy to be a anti Semite these days.

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[–] TrentnQuarantino (8566) 19 days ago

There never was a Palestine, not was there Palestinian land. If you bother to really look you would see that this was a kind of no man's land in the breakup of the Ottoman empire, administered by Britain. There was no Palestine, and most of the people there were workers tending abscent landlord's lands. The Palestinians all have names that come from Egypt, Lebanon, Syria, etc. There is no uniquely Palestinian people or cuture.

The case for some kind of compensation perhaps should or could be negotiated, but then you'd have to also consider the about equal number of Jews expelled from Arabs lands and forced to go to Israel.

That might have been a fair moment to call it equal, but the Arabs refused to allow the Palestinians to emigrate to Arab lands, and the "Palestinians" living in what was to be the original Palestine, Jordan, terrorized the land and the King of Jordan and were expelled to go to other places over time where every single place they went the brough upheaval and terror and had to be driven out or remained by terror, such as Lebanon and Syria.

Is it you don't know what you are talking about, or you don't want to know what you are talking about?

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[–] samoanjoes (51176) 18 days ago

I think you misunderstand me. I find Palestine's claims to the land bogus. All evidence suggests that it's Israeli land 1000 earlier than Palestine. The Quran mentions Israel, but not Palestine.

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[–] SamNoyoun (4469) 20 days ago

Wasn't Iran justified in their actions in retaliation for Israel's attack on their Syrian embassy?

Why yes, yes they were!

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[–] TrentnQuarantino (8566) 19 days ago

In the eyes of murdering Islamic terrorists only.

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[–] TrentnQuarantino (8566) 19 days ago

Iran strike ( now we're even )
Israel attack on embassy personnel.
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Israel retaliation ( ongoing )
Hamas & Iran break ongoing ceasefire and execute Al Aqsa flood barbaric terrorist massacre - outside any law of war.

Ongoing war sustained by Palestinians against Israel since Israel declared itself a country. By the way, lots of groups in this area, Kurds and Yazidis and Christians too seek to separate their lives and societies from the ongoing abuses of the governments of the Sunni And Shiite Islamic Republicans.

I Palestinians stopped fighting there would be no more war. If Israel stopped fighting there would be no more Israel. Same with Iran. The sickness is in the radical interpretation of Islam which no other religion has. Every other religion has matured past the stage where they are fighting the whole world for their tribe and ideology to take over the world - except Islam, and they fight constantly - even each other. Islam broadly is the problem because the vast majority of Muslims refuse to demand some kind of reformation and even subscribe to this lunacy though they do not yet take up arms against the West.

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[–] Porsche911 (2583) 20 days ago

BREAKING: ISRAELI TV: THE IDF WILL ATTACK IRAN TONIGHT( Sunday)

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[–] TheHardSell (641) 20 days ago

https://x.com/Hawkeye1745/status/1779616159865676053
Plans for both offensive and defence action has been authorised following last night's attack by Iran, says IOF spokesperson Rear Admiral Hagari

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[–] almonigal (1120) 19 days ago

Is this a race war or a religious war?

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[–] retieredactor (617) 19 days ago

https://www.scribd.com/document/272595444/All-Wars-Are-Bankers-Wars

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[–] TrentnQuarantino (8566) 19 days ago

Iran should have been taken care of when we had forces surrounding it in Iraq & Afghanistan. I think our government is concerned about the havoc Iranian &
Islamic agents of all sorts can wreak on the US and global economy if they wish.
And it could go on and on for years.

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[–] Porsche911 (2583) 18 days ago

I hope Iran bomb the 💩 out of Israel !

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[–] Porsche911 (2583) 16 days ago

BIDEN has VETOED PALESTINE’S request for STATEHOOD at the United Nations.
This land belongs to the Jews he proclaimed, fist pumping in the air!

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[–] Porsche911 (2583) 16 days ago

VOTES ON STATE OF PALESTINE ADMISSION TO UN

12 IN FAVOUR:
🇩🇿Algeria
🇲🇿Mozambique
🇸🇱 Sierra Leone
🇬🇾 Guyana
🇪🇨 Ecuador
🇷🇺 Russia
🇨🇳 China
🇫🇷 France
🇸🇮 Slovenia
🇲🇹 Malta
🇯🇵 Japan
🇰🇷Republic of Korea

1 AGAINST
🇺🇲 USA

2 ABSTENTATIONS
🇬🇧 UK
🇨🇭 Switzerland

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