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Mitt Romney's vanishing and reappearing backbone...

posted 5 years ago by [deleted]
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Mitt Romney's backbone made an appearance today when he tweeted:

When the only American citizen President Trump singles out for China’s investigation is his political opponent in the midst of the Democratic nomination process, it strains credulity to suggest that it is anything other than politically motivated.

By all appearances, the President’s brazen and unprecedented appeal to China and to Ukraine to investigate Joe Biden is wrong and appalling.

Whether this would translate to him taking any action should the impeachment process reach the senate is anyone's guess.

[–] [deleted] 5 years ago

I wonder what other Republicans, including the conservatives on this board, think of this? It's about as clear and concise a comment on what's wrong with what Trump did as any I've come across.

[–] LordBAElish (2015) 5 years ago

Hillary and the left did it in 2016, so whats fair is fair.

[–] ultravioletx (10216) 5 years ago

So republicans got transcripts of Hillary soliciting Ukraine and have never even talked about them let alone release them? But LordBootLick says its true so it must be. Because there's no way in hell LordBootLick would be so stupid to not know the difference between receiving help and asking for it.

[–] [deleted] 5 years ago

Lol....seriously so ridiculous. Also Trump is fucked.

[–] ultravioletx (10216) 5 years ago

Strange that he didn't reply. He and krl seem to be on vacation for some reason :)

[–] eYeDEF (5050) 5 years ago

krl's off licking his wounds. He's lost his voice now that his propaganda tzar John Solomon isn't pumping out propaganda for him to ape since going radio silent after being fingered by the whistleblower.

[–] ultravioletx (10216) 5 years ago

Ahhh so thats what happened. I was wondering why he scampered off.

[–] eYeDEF (5050) 5 years ago

More like slithered, but yeah. :)

That blowhard was such a proud propaganda casualty. Without it he drowns.

I predict when Solomon resurfaces, he'll be thrown a lifeline.

[–] dteam6 (5073) 5 years ago

Pathetic.

Sometimes I wonder if these guys are being serious around here or are just looking to troll around, pretending to be Trump supporters. Some people do that. It's like the flat earthers on the net--sure, SOME of them really believe the earth is flat, but most of them are just riding a bandwagon/looking to get a reaction from people.

I'm sure a lot of that is true of the online Trumpers.

[–] [deleted] 5 years ago

Are you one of the staff writers for Carlson or Hannity? Please say yes so we know where you’re coming from.

[–] CharlotteXavier (2357) 5 years ago

I would think they don’t care that much that he is urging any countries to investigate the Bidens. Look at all the horrible stuff they all knew about and voted for him anyway. He appeals to very low people because he validates their lack of decency.

[–] eYeDEF (5050) 5 years ago

We got the answer to what Republicans think of this yesterday.

Their latest is that Trump was joking about China investigating Biden. They all seemed to be hammering this same line, so this was clearly a tactical talking point distributed among GOP in Congress.

Except that excuse doesn't fly either when it was widely reportedly he also brought it up in a June phone call with the Chinese president during which he suggested he'd refrain from commenting on the Hong Kong protests.

All the more reason complete conversations off that classified server need to be gathered and retained for posterity.

[–] dteam6 (5073) 5 years ago

This administration is just full of the "jokes", isn't it? Seems like I've read this: "he was only joking" excuse at least once a month every month since his joke of a presidency began.

Then again, this IS a circus administration with an orange clown at the helm, so I guess it makes sense the clown would be full of "jokes".

Anyway, is it just me or you'd think Donald even SAYING such a thing about Biden could, in and of itself, be a crime? At the very least, it seems libelous.

[–] eYeDEF (5050) 5 years ago

Libelous? lolz. Yeah, not just that though. It's clearly an abuse of power. He's using the power of his office to benefit himself when he asks foreign leaders to investigate his domestic political opponents. That's illegal even if there was never a quid pro quo.

[–] dteam6 (5073) 5 years ago

While I agree, how in the hell are Trump's people selling this as being "not illegal"? We all clearly know that it is but Trump, the president, is literally stating "What I did was perfectly legal!" and his people are backing him up. I mean...they're ignoring the rule of law very publicly and openly. It just astounds me as I've never witness corruption so blatant and in your face with our government in my entire lifetime.

[–] eYeDEF (5050) 5 years ago

You're absolutely right, we are in unprecedented territory with just the open season lawbreaking and the shame and denial of one party to confront the open criminality of the president. This is just a fact. That's what makes this all so terrifying to those actually paying attention. We're in uncharted waters.

They use the "no quid pro quo" argument as a distraction (even though it clearly was a quid pro quo) which allows them to conveniently not address the fact that it is an undeniable abuse of power.

[–] dteam6 (5073) 5 years ago

Exactly. Whether there was or wasn't a quid pro quo, it was WRONG for a president to do this.

And for all the Trumpers defending this (which is already scary in and of itself), I ask this: Does this sound sound right to you? A president of the United Stated States asked a foreign leader to dig up dirt on a political opponent. Does this sound right? No. It doesn't. And the Trumpers know it. They know it because their very defense is: "Well, Hillary did the same thing". Uh, first of all, it wasn't the same as what Trump did. Secondly, Hillary wasn't president--Trump is. Third, by even referencing Hillary as a deflection, they are openly admitting that the action was wrong. In their stupid attempts to try to prove "dem hypocrisy" they just admitted that they KNOW what Trump did was wrong AND that they don't want Trump to get in trouble for it.

For all of us adults in the room, we know a very simple fact: Whatever dems did/didn't do is a moot point. I mean--if a man robs a bank, is using: "Well, so and so also robbed a bank but got away with it, so why am I in trouble?" a valid defense? No. It isn't. We're taught in kindergarten that two wrongs don't make a right.

The scariest part is that, what I just described, isn't even JUST a Trumper defense strategy--this is a Trump administration defense strategy. They learned this from Trump. This is how Trump and his people defend their crimes: "But Hillary and Obama!" and other nonsense.

But that's what I find funny about Trump and his base: by deflecting to other people, you're essentially ADMITTING that you know it was wrong. Otherwise, the deflection wouldn't exist.

Also, I just have to reiterate: the entire Russia probe thing bothers me. Yes, Mueller looked rather tired and somewhat confused on the stand, but I'm still wondering what went on behind the scenes between Mueller and Barr.

All that keeps running through my mind regarding the probe was that Mueller announced that he need an extension through the summer--however, Barr was soon confirmed and suddenly the probe was ending. Done. Bam. Gone.

Mueller disappeared from the public entirely after his hearing and all attention diverted away from it. Mueller looked UNCOMFORTABLE on that stand and seemed to be deliberately stalling so as to answer as few questions as possible.

What the hell did Barr say to him? The man looked tired, spooked and ready to be over this. None of it feels right. None of it adds up. Sometimes I wonder if Mueller was threatened in some way.

[–] eYeDEF (5050) 5 years ago

My own opinion: Mueller was intimidated by the sheer scale of the Trump DOJ takeover and was not prepared to be an Archibald Cox redux. He got out while he could.

[–] dteam6 (5073) 5 years ago

Makes sense.

"Trump DOJ takeover" sounds so chilling...just like a dictatorship.

[–] eYeDEF (5050) 5 years ago

According to this Gabe Sherman Vanity Fair article, Mitt is positioning himself to move against Trump in any Senate impeachment trial.

According to people close to Romney, he’s firmly decided against primarying Trump, an enterprise he believes to be a sure loser given Trump’s enduring GOP support. Romney has also told people that, as an unsuccessful two-time presidential candidate, he’s the wrong person to take on Trump. Instead, a Romney adviser told me, Romney believes he has more potential power as a senator who will decide Trump’s fate in an impeachment trial. “He could have tremendous influence in the impeachment process as the lone voice of conscience in the Republican caucus,” the adviser said. In recent days, Romney has been reaching out privately to key players in the Republican resistance, according to a person briefed on the conversations. “Romney is the one guy who could bring along Susan Collins, Cory Gardner, Ben Sasse. Romney is the pressure point in the impeachment process. That’s why the things he’s saying are freaking Republicans out.” (Romney, through a spokesperson, declined to comment.)

Of course he'll need to persuade a lot more than Sasse, Collins, and Gardener to have any effect. But it's a start.

https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2019/10/mitt-romney-wont-primary-trump-but-trying-to-bring-him-down-impeachment-2020

[–] dteam6 (5073) 5 years ago

You know what's truly scary here? Donald already out-Nixoned Nixon in YEAR ONE of his presidency...and here we are in the most unprecedented corruption of a presidency we've EVER had.

Imagine what year eight would look like...