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I love Danielle Harris/Jamie and Donald Pleasance/Loomis. I actually don't care that much for Jamie Lee Curtis.
I love how crazy and mad Loomis is in this movie. He's so tired and exhausted from fighting Michael all these times.
Halloween 6 has a great revelation with the runes, but I think Halloween 5 is my favorite of the Thorn trilogy and even my favorite of the Halloween series. I love Dominique's European style. Which puts me in a very odd camp, since many people dislike Halloween 5.
I wish the Thorn trilogy could've had more movies. They were getting experimental with the Halloween/Michael Myers legacy. I wish Halloween 5's director Dominique also could've directed Halloween 6.
But in a way, I think you could paint Halloween 6 (producer's cut!) as the conclusion of the Thorn trilogy.
1) Halloween 4 tried to blast Michael away with rednecks and guns.
2) Halloween 5 tried to fix Michael with therapy. And interestingly enough, many characters are being pretty therapeutic to Michael through out Halloween 5. A) The hermit from the beginning tries to nurse Michael back to health. B) The man in black tries to protect Michael. C) Jamie tries to see the humanity in Michael in the attic by saying "Uncle" and "You're just like me." D) Tina treats Michael like her boyfriend. Michael pretends to be "Mike" who is Tina's boyfriend and Tina actually kisses him. Why did Michael pretend to do this? Maybe he wanted to feel some affection from Tina. E) Loomis also tries to reason with Michael and fix his feelings.
I think trying to fix Michael with therapy makes sense from the perspective of Halloween 4 - because Michael was blown away by all those guns and they didn't work against him. But the therapy treatment has also failed, since Michael escapes, and the inner workings of the Thorn cult evade everyone's understanding.
3) Tommy successfully stops Michael with the use of runes in the producer's cut. I think that makes sense. Brute force in Halloween 4 and therapy in Halloween 5 did not work for Michael. You have to call upon the spiritual world in order to stop evil. In such a way, Halloween 6 is kinda the conclusion. You can't stop evil completely, but with the proper incantations/rituals, you can evade it, as Tommy did.
Jamie and Loomis are corruptible. Jamie is *like* Michael, she also had some darkness in her. Loomis is also corruptible. He is a doctor like Wynn, and Wynn turned to the dark side. Both positions are corruptible.
Ahh, good find. Loomis knew the Man in Black, just as Cooper knows Windom Earle.
Both the Man in Black and Windom are former professional working men. The Man in Black, a doctor. Windom, a FBI agent. Ironic.
7) Doctor Death from the deleted opening of Halloween 5 (released finally last year in 2021!!!) is kinda like the male version of the Log Lady.
Along with the goofy cops and the teenagers looking like Bobby, Mike, Laura and Donna, the characters really do have their counterparts between Halloween 5 and Twin Peaks.
I'm fascinated that the thorn symbol and the owl symbol are similar. The man in black...who is his equivalent in Twin Peaks? There's shady people in Twin Peaks like him. Similar to Windom Earle, the man in black also tried to harness supernatural evil.
Haven't heard that, but interesting. The Nazi machine is called the "Die Glocke". According to lore, it's made from broken wreckage of a UFO. Which I like that idea, because it does pick up from Kingdom of the Crystal Skull in that way. Besides, the Nazis have tried to get a mystical weapon twice now! It's cool that they finally they get their weapon, haha.
Yes.
The 4 main teens really do look like Laura, Donna, Bobby and Mike. That's weird actually.
1) The damaged photo frame of Laura in Part 17 of Season 3 is just like the damaged photo frame of Jamie in Halloween 5.
2) The cop who helps Jamie in Halloween 5 is the same actor who plays the Principal in the Pilot of Twin Peaks.
3) Jamie's house and Laura's house both look iconic.
4) Both killers target family members (Leland and Laura, Michael and Jamie)
5) There is a symbol behind the evil/supernatural for both the Lodge and Michael: the Owl symbol and the Thorn symbol.
6) Both take place in 1989. Jamie is abducted by the cult of thorn in 1989 and Laura dies in 1989. The ending of Halloween 5 is honestly like a Twin Peaks ending.
Seasons 1 and 2 take place roughly during the Spring Equinox. Season 3 takes place during the Autumn equinox.
I don't think Twin Peaks is able to take place during the Summer or Winter, because those are extremes. Summer is very bright, winter is very dark. Twin Peaks is always somewhere in the middle of light and dark, hence spring or autumn.
The parts about Project Blue Book in Season 2 do make me think of the X-Files.
I'm almost done with my rewatch of Season 2 and the alien/UFO/Project Blue Book references are somewhat puzzling in light of Season 3. I don't think Season 3 continues the whole alien thread, from what I remember of it.
I've heard a rumor of what the item/artifact is. I think the rumor is true. If so, Indy 5 will be very different from the previous 4 films. That's what I'll say.
People canceled Peter....
And then the villains face the ultimate sort of cancellation: death. And Peter seeks to redeem/save them from their cancelled fate. Since Peter sees redemption in himself and that he's not totally guilty of killing Mysterio. If Peter is not totally guilty of his crime, why are the villains any different?
If you want the list of parallels, I can dm it. There are almost 30 parallels. I actually gotta add one or two more parallels that I recently also found.
I think the Lodge is the newest incarnation of God. And I think the Lodge is a great modern day depiction of God.
The Lodge gives us the impression of a spiritual dimension, of an extra divine reality. Even with this extra spiritual dimension, it does still seem as if God is absent. But the Lodge, this spiritual dimension, is sentient and has a mind of its own.
We have gone from Yahweh (the Jewish God) to Jesus Christ and now, the newest incarnation of God is the Lodge. I really like this new look that God has got going on. Judaism was way too exclusive, and not a single person understands the Gospels because of how cryptic they are. This time, I think God (the Lodge) will be entering our reality. Twin Peaks Season 3 is then a "New, New Testament" or a Third Testament.
Which makes me believe that the current era that humanity is in right now will be a transformative time. You see it in the news with Covid and the Ukraine situation...I have no idea how far or how close we are to this transformation, but we are close.
Read the story of Jacob in the book of Genesis. There is over 20 parallels with this and Cooper's story in Season 3.
Genesis 27 through Genesis 35. There's a few things that Cooper also takes from the stories of Jacob's two sons - Joseph and Judah. But it is mainly Jacob's story.
1) Leah and Rachel are indeed Janey-E and Diane. Jacob is given a wife he doesn't want (Leah), just as Cooper is given a wife he doesn't want (Janey-E). But oddly enough it is the sister of this unwanted wife that the main character truly loves (Diane/Rachel).
2) Jacob stealing cattle from Laban is exactly the same as Cooper stealing money from the Mitchum's casino. Which makes Laban equivalent to the Mitchum brothers.
3) Fighting the Bob demon hand to hand is exactly like when Jacob is wrestling with the angel.
4) Esau is indeed like the Doppelganger. They both have long hair and look identical to the main character. Esau and the doppelganger both want to kill the main character.
There is just a few examples, there's plenty of more examples.
Season 3 is completely copied from a Bible story. That is a total secret, but I tell you, it's the truth.
I think Lynch is just trying to prepare the world for how crazy and weird these times are truly going to get.
Season 3 is prophetic, Lynch is really trying to tap into the reality of the Jewish God. Which is odd I'll admit, since Lynch is more about Eastern spirituality in public interviews. But for one reason or another, Season 3 is rigidly Biblical.
1) That's what I mean though. Cobra Kai is even episodic to an extent.
2) How do you define "Soap Opera" in the case of Twin Peaks? If you define it as that, then I don't think you've seen the new season of Twin Peaks. And you just said that they resemble each other.
3) Right. I agree with you there, the comic medium is due to that.
4) Right - but you're not looking at the ending of Dragonball Z. Dragonball Z did not have a true ending. Like, the implication is that there is going to be more adventures with Goku and Uub, but we the audience will not see that. It wasn't entirely a closed ending. Goku said that there would be more threats to earth, hence why he was going to train Uub. Then, it just ends on that note. Nothing can beat the Majin Buu saga for me, personally. So I do agree that everything after Dragonball Z is not that great.
In other words, the conflict is going to go on. "Cobra Kai" as an idea lives on.
I think Cobra Kai should end, just that it should be.....not on an intense note.
Like Dexter (the new season) and Breaking Bad had "definite" and intense endings. I don't think Cobra Kai should have a definite/intense ending like those.
The last episode of I Dream of Jeannie is not a series finale - it's just a regular episode. That's what I sorta mean.
So, how do I explain this?
I think the best type of stories do not end. Franchises can't exactly end. I think the best sort of ending to Cobra Kai is an "open ending". Something close to a cliffhanger. Some stories have too much going on in order to have a true ending.
1) Scooby Doo has gone on for over half a century.
2) Twin Peaks does not have a real ending.
3) Marvel comics can't really end. There's even stories of a "2099 Spider-Man".
4) Consider the Jews. Their story has gone on for over 3000 years.
5) Dragonball Z and Doctor Who are too cosmic to end on, thus they just keep on going.
Some stories just can't have a true ending. Stories become too cosmic and ingrained in the psyche of people.
Cobra Kai is a tricky one. I don't know how it should end.
I'm not saying Cobra Kai should have tons of seasons, just maybe an open ending.