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The Burger Bun - Massive Plot Hole?

posted 8 months ago by FootOfDavros (7186)
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I appreciate they said they had, and could make, anything there. But I took that to mean from the abundant fresh meat / vegetable produce that they had at had at hand.

Is it really plausible though - on their predetermined last night of service and at such a high end yet inaccessible establishment that they'd just have some bog standard burger buns lying around in that kitchen?

Now "Chef probably cries himself to sleep every night after making himself a burger!" you may cry, and you may well be right. But we saw no exit and return from retrieving buns from his personal abode...

Nor did we see any bakery style preparation of the bun either. Not that that wouldn't have been ridiculous and taken too long anyway...

Thus we are left with no other option but to question exactly how that magical burger bun got there and whether it, in itself, constitutes a MASSIVE plot hole for this film?

Given the woman who requested it wasn't even supposed to be there and given the 0% chance none of the other diners would have requested a burger either, I think we have to conclude a resounding yes.

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[–] FootOfDavros (7186) 8 months ago

Thanks very much for your kind words... Indeed if life were in fact a movie we could consider such an anomaly a plot hole...

However, in the context of the movie, and it's very real, central status to the actual plot (! Amusing as sometimes the use of "plot hole" is "overdone" (to use cooking parlance!) but here, in this case, it's a key part of the story) how would you account for that burger bun being there?

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[–] Heisenberg (6442) 8 months ago

Yes, it is a plot hole.

although...
I coincidentally just watched a reality show about restaurants. In one of the kitchen inspections, the tv host found a side fridge loaded with junk food and pre packaged ready meals. The owner of the restaurant explaind that that was the staff's fridge, used only for their meals.
So, maybe it is common for restaurateurs to feed their client top food, while at the same time they eat crappy food themselves like most people do.
Hence in the movie, in that staff side stash, maybe somebody had a burger bun.

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[–] FootOfDavros (7186) 8 months ago

Funny, I was just thinking of this as a possibility...

Although, in this particular case, given Chef's particularly high standards, the pretentiousness of the entire endeavour, and his revealed very strong association with that particular dish, I'm not sure he'd have even employed staff who'd be munching away on burgers in his kitchen.

But, yes, I guess it is worthy of consideration.

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[–] parkerbot (6170) 8 months ago

Assuming there was no bun at hand, if you knew what you were doing, what's to say you couldn't make a bun from scratch in 30 minutes?

My better half, who makes bread etc said she could do it. If she can, a master chef could.

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[–] FootOfDavros (7186) 8 months ago

You may be correct, in terms of being able to make it in 30 mins, but as per the OP:-

Nor did we see any bakery style preparation of the bun either. Not that that wouldn't have been ridiculous and taken too long anyway...

So maybe 30 mins would have possible to cook one, although I suppose cooling time as well? (as he wouldn't have served it to her in anything less than perfect state) but we didn't see any of that.

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[–] parkerbot (6170) 8 months ago

To get to your plot hole you're assuming there was no bun (despite it being a restaurant that normally served bread) and that making a bun wasn't possible because it wasn't shown on film - that's not a plot hole if you ask me.

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[–] FootOfDavros (7186) 8 months ago

...despite it being a restaurant that normally served bread...

Well, as I said in the OP, this was a very high end restaurant. I think it's safe to assume they weren't serving burger and chips on an ordinary basis...

In fact, I'd even go as far as to say, it loses sight of the outcome of the film, and how she managed to escape, to fail to see how unlikely a burger bun was likely to be in that particular kitchen.

But regardless, I was curious enough to rewatch how that scene played out and although, as you mentioned, a bun being made wasn't shown, making the burger certainly was.

We see him fashioning the ground beef into patties and what do we see at the side and all ready to go before he even starts cooking the burgers?

That's right, a ready to go burger bun...

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[–] parkerbot (6170) 8 months ago

I think you're seeing things that are not there for some reason.

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[–] FootOfDavros (7186) 8 months ago

Well okay. But given I just explained that we see the burger bun at the beginning of his cooking process, I'd have to argue the converse, i.e:-

I think you're not seeing things that are there for some reason!

But each to their own - if not accepting this as a plot hole helps you enjoy the film more, good on you 👍

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[–] parkerbot (6170) 8 months ago

Do you think there's a problem with a fancy restaurant having cheese slices?

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[–] FootOfDavros (7186) 8 months ago

Possibly.

But we didn't see that for sure, i.e. cheese "slices". Just that it was American cheese she requested.

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[–] The_Rev (212) 6 months ago

I think, given that the staff lived on the property, they'd have access to all manner of "common" food items, like burger buns. I doubt the staff eat their own menu on a daily basis. I mean, remember how much the meal costs? It's for the rich. Ordinary people don't pay 15k for one meal. And it's not just "the experience" that the customers are paying for. So a lot of that money goes to overhead for the staff.

Plus, it would be more economical for the staff to be eating "normal" food, aside from the bits and pieces kitchen staff normally get while cooking, than the stuff that costs 15k/meal... So it's not a plot hole. They should have plenty of cheap, common food on the premises.

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[–] FootOfDavros (7186) 6 months ago

Someone already raised that point above. It is a possibility I guess but as I said:-

Although, in this particular case, given Chef's particularly high standards, the pretentiousness of the entire endeavour, and his revealed very strong association with that particular dish, I'm not sure he'd have even employed staff who'd be munching away on burgers in his kitchen.

Depending upon how seriously you take the film, the chef's character and psychological reveal associated with common burgers, I think it's a fair question.

Plus, we also saw that chef had his own separate kitchen for personal requirements. I'm not sure, we can believe given that, that he'd have the staff "contaminating" the actual fine dining kitchen with low quality products. Again, possibly this also buys into how seriously you take the film's study of chef's character.

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[–] beauq81 (1023) 5 months ago

In a hot air oven, it takes about 5 minutes to bake a bun. Given that this is a professional kitchen, it is likely that they already have some fermented dough on stand-by. If not, baking powder does the trick. Takes about 10-15 minutes for a skilled baker in a professional kitchen to make a quick bun.

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