I hope this, and everything Ruin Johnson does, fails at the box office.
To the guy that destroyed Star Wars for so many of us🖕
I disliked The Last Jedi, but I can't wish the guy ill because of that.
First of all, as several others have pointed out, Star Wars was already in bad shape by the time the prequels were done beating it with blunt objects (and the merchandising, the Ewok movies, the Christmas special...), so Johnson hardly got in there first.
Second, he's also put out great material with Brick and Looper (I also liked The Brothers Bloom). Now with Knives Out, I think he's a fine filmmaker who deserves dollars wherever he makes a good movie or a great one.
But, yes, The Last Jedi was tripe.
Looper was great, Brick was ok, but I turned Brothers Bloom off one third in. Such a small resume to be handed they keys for what was suppose to be the biggest IP in film history now destroyed thanks to his ego.
shareYeah, that's kinda why I bracketed Brothers Bloom; I know it's probably not as tightly-scripted as Brick and Looper. I'm a big noir guy, so I really dug Brick.
As for destroying Star Wars, that fuse was lit with "midichlorians" as far as I'm concerned. When Disney acquired Lucasfilm, somebody asked me what I thought of that and my response was, "Oh, what are they gonna do? Ruin it?" Maybe Disney didn't do Star Wars any favours, but it was D.O.A.
Ruin it...Ruin Johnson 😂
Ok thanks for sharing your view.
I believe SW was broken thanks to the prequels and needed to be fixed but was not DOA. Hell I had a lot of fun with TFA and even agreed with JJs soft reboot approach.
Anyway if you haven’t heard this is an interesting development. Overlord defiantly has got an inside contact as his story predictions for TROD were true.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9H91ZTzqVI4
Going in to TFA I was optimistic. Watching it, I was entertained. It was a bit of a bland cracker - committee made and all that. It's an odd film because I think very little in its runtime is a problem.
TFA's sins are first of the past. It made nonsense of the thirty year gap. Han is a deadbeat dad? He lost the Falcon? The Republic are somehow in charge of the galaxy AND didn't know about the planet-converted superweapon across the night sky? Impossible. But, in the context of TFA, a lot of that was overlooked because Han comes back and recovers his ship and the war is what I came for, so... But the problem is that with each subsequent film, those cracks became wider and wider and the thirty year gap became worse. Rian Johnson was set up because there was really almost no excuse for Luke to be isolated as long as he was. That's not all on Johnson; J.J. set him up. I would have bought that Luke had evolved spiritually to the point that he no longer cared about war or physical, political struggles at all. That's about it. "He lost hope"? Don't buy it.
The second batch of problems with TFA is that it utilized Abrams' infamous mystery boxes. Again, those setups with no clear payoffs left Johnson in the dark floundering about.
So, I don't really blame Johnson. He was given a load of crock and he said, "Alright, let's try to blow the lid off of Star Wars and take it someplace it's never gone before," and it didn't work. But at least he tried.
ThAnks for sharing.
Can I ask did you think Han was a dead beat dad when watching TFA or after TLJ when that saying got coined and the hatred started pouring in? Think about what Ben turning to the dark side would have done to their relationship.
I agree it was bad writing that the republic were not aware of the super weapon but I believe blowing up the planet was a nod to the fans that they are blowing up the prequels. IT got a few laughs from where I was sitting.
I don’t believe Rians story for Luke on the island was going to be the same for JJs. I’ve heard a few good alternative versions like Luke was told by YODA or Obiwan to go to this Island in secrecy and Await for The arrival of someone that will need he’s training To defeat the first order. He’s basically being waiting all this time for REy and even started doubting she/him would come. It would be explained that he Was purposely hiding letting the will of the force guide Rey to him.
I know JJ does mystery boxes but I’m sure what was setup in TFA could have been answered like who had the light sabre and who her parents were.
I was rankled watching TFA that Han had abandoned Leia with no real explanation given in the film. That's something Han would have done at the beginning of Star Wars. His character arc has him display loyalty to his new friends. This is the first thing that happens to Han. TFA undid that arc and walked it back and that never sat well with me. I don't think I used the exact phrase "deadbeat dad" at first, but I didn't like that he had walked away; it undid his character growth.
I did appreciate the almost pathological prequel denial in the Disney films. They never mentioned midichlorians, there isn's so much as a background Gungan, and I think a lot of the aliens are made from foam and rubber suits instead of CGI BS.
I could kinda buy that explanation. Ultimately, though, I think that the big problem with the sequels is that they ignore, abandon, and spit on the OT characters and heroes and what they accomplished. I'm okay with them taking a backseat or being all-but-absent, but to treat them seemingly with contempt is disappointing.
See, some of those mystery boxes I didn't care about. Like, a lot of people wanted to know who found the lightsabre, but I never gave a crap. An ugnaught found it in a garbage vat and sold it. Eventually Maz bought it or stole it or something. I was glad in The Last Jedi when they just wiped out Snoke; I never liked him as a character. He was an Emperor knockoff. Of course, then they brought back Palpatine, so JJ handled it in basically the worst way possible.
Rise of Skywalker made similar mistakes to The Last Jedi. It just ignored and erased continuity. Only, this time it was clearly to please fans. So each movie in this new trilogy erred in a similar way: TFA ignored character development and story arcs set up by the OT, TLJ took Episode VII's set-up and tried to "subvert expectations", ignoring the seeds of its predecessor, and then Rise of Skywalker tried to walk back The Last Jedi while wrapping up the story. What a mess.
How excited were you for TLJ?
For me I never watched a single trailer as to not have any spoilers.
I was actually almost shaking in anticipation when the opening credits started rolling.
If I was this excited for TLJ as many fans were, I feel TFA, with it’s flaws, did it’s job.
Couldn’t care less for TROS and pirated it when released on blu ray.
I was looking forward to the The Last Jedi. I'm not sure if I was really, really excited, but I did want to see it. So...mildly excited? Yes, TFA mostly did its job. I still think, and hindsight is 20/20, that it didn't offer a very solid foundation on which to build (and even while watching it, I did think they fumbled the gap between TFA and Return of the Jedi).
I did get less excited and my trepidation grew as early harbingers of The Last Jedi indicated the disappointment that it was. I ignored some of it (claims of "It's Woke!" are so prevalent these days that I mostly just roll my eyes and move on), but there was so much of it that it seemed impossible that it was all bogus (where there's smoke there's fire, and all that). This was also one of the first movies that I started to note the discrepancy between the aggregate of reviewers' opinions and the audience's differing opinion.