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we're supposed to believe (major spoiler)


that a 40-ish gal, not very large, could manhandle a strapping 19 year old young man?

only on the teevee, at the movies. its an alternate universe.

they should at least, since this is the big reveal, -try- to make it a bit plausible.

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Yeah I did think that chris(?) should have been able to shake off sophie fairly easily, but it didnt bother me that much, she was a trained cop after all.

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i think that’s why they played up the drinking and drugs for him. i think it made him less able to defend himself.

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it was ridiculous. when i was a strong skinny 19 year old, i could do twenty backward pull-ups, climb a rope with my arms alone - and i was just a normal strong kid, built about like that guy.

no tiny woman could have held me underwater. even submission holds dont work if you are fighting to breathe.

it was just yet another brainless scene concocted by a brainless director.

dont get me wrong, i'm not a right-winger or something. but this current fad of setting up women as equals in combat to males just isnt reality.

if they wanted him drugged enough to appear plausibly capable of being subdued , they should have set it up that way, have him act that way.

its just sloppy story-telling, pandering to a make believe universe wherein women and men are interchangeable in every respect, except those where men excel, such as crime/aggression.

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Nah, there is no "current fad" of what you claim. A few 'realistic' shows have questionable scenes, but not many. In all the other cases, the show have sci-fi or fantasy elements that justify those scenes.

A lot more shows have men doing what they do plenty of irl, beat the shit out of women. And these days they don't sugarcoat the effects of getting beaten to a pulp either - no bruise over one eye that lasts a few days, but whole faces swollen purple.

Pandering? Again, no. It shows women doing horrible things, like hiding awful secrets for decades, sleeping with students and murdering people. And yes, statistically men DO commit far more violent criminal acts ("excel" is a strange word to use), so that's just reality.

You'll survive this minor plot contrivance in what was otherwise some pretty damn good storytelling.

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you are loading a lot of extraneous baggage onto a fairly straightforward observation of a trend that, despite your demurral, is pretty much all over the place, rather silly.

the only agenda i have is some semblance of reality. you seem concerned about a lot of other matters which, however serious or worthy of attention, are irrelevant to my initial observation.

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I think we are supposed to believe that she was able to do it since he was heavily intoxicated as that's what everyone says about him at the party and she did have some hand to hand training as a cop.

I think they should have made him appear a lot more drunk though. Like if they showed him stumbling about or swaying while standing next to the pool it could be more plausible, but he seems just drunk and not severely intoxicated.

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he should have been falling down drunk to make it more realistic.

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Agree

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Not only that, that she could do so in a house party of the current days when everyone's a cctv beacon?

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