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Killing a Troll. Lord of the Rings (2001) vs Rings of Power (2022)


LotR. Lord of the Rings
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w-Ulf__1HZc

RiP. Rings of Power
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oLZtpd3dvrE

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There were Elves powerful enough to kill Balrogs, let alone a troll. But Galadriel wasn't one of them.

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Source?

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go here and knock yourself out...(it's pretty much the gold standard of all things Tolkien)...

https://tolkiengateway.net/wiki/Main_Page

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Um, I don't want to be pointed to the MAIN PAGE of a general Tolkien website, I wanted YOU to take me specifically to the page in question, because I myself wouldn't know where to look! Do YOU?

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Um, what exactly are you looking for?

Elves have defeated Balrogs in battle.
Guyladriel was never written as a warrior she-elf and she never fought a troll in hand-2-hand combat let alone a Balrog...hell, she never fought an orc.

This show is complete shite.

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Elves are not Wizards, and even Gandalf BARELY defeated the Balrog in Moria.

I just want you to name an Elf that beat a Balrog in the same way as Gandalf.

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an Elf that beat a Balrog in the same way as Gandalf


Why does it have to be the same way as Gandalf?

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Well, it doesn't HAVE to be the same way, but what could an Elf do against something so powerful as a Balrog?

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Okay, there are two known instances of an Elf defeating a Balrog ...both occurred during the Fall of Gondolin and in both cases the Elf perished as well as the Balrog:

https://tolkiengateway.net/wiki/Fall_of_Gondolin

Also, although it did not occur, most Tolkienites believe that Fingolfin would have defeated any Balrog who would have dared challenge him before his duel with Morgoth.

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Yes, but Gandalf also defeated a Balrog, and he didn't dispose of that Troll as easily as Galadriel did. And there are no records of Galadirel defeating a Balrog, or defeating anyone in combat for that matter. There are some obscure references to her "fighting" and being of amazonian build.

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Correct...(although I'm not sure you meant your reply for me or AMJF)

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Glorfidel killed a Balrog, died as a result, and was sent back to Middle Earth in a more powerful form. So pretty much exactly like Gandalf.

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Ecthelion killed 4 balrogs, including Gothmog who was the most powerful of them all.

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Gandalf was powerful enough to kill a Balrog, and he was in that scene fighting the troll.

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Gandalf BARELY killed the Balrog, he had to be brought back as Gandalf the White as a result!

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Same thing happened to Glorfindel. Or are you talking about another elf?

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Why are you posting this? We all know that the Peter Jackson LOTR movies stomp all over the Rings of Power as though it is a bug!

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both nice action scenes...the trolls are different though. the second one looked creepier...

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