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The Terminator Movies Need Less (Not More) New Terminator Models


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Every Terminator sequel brings with it another new Terminator model (or two), but is this tendency part of what makes the series so underwhelming?

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its tough because if we are using the same characters they as well as the audience already know how to defeat the same model easily. then it just becomes frustrating for the audience.. at the same time new terminators in theory raises the stakes, and creates a new unknown for audiences. but then also gives us the marvel problem, as we keep introducing more and more increasingly powerful entities..

I only pretend terminator 1 and 2 exist

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They ran out of new model ideas, they all seem to be liquid metal skin terminators, never a T800 that isn't Schwarzenegger, in the original they had another terminator that wasn't played by Schwarzenegger what was wrong with that? The Sarah Connor Chronicles got away with different looking T800s because they couldn't afford Schwarzenegger it was a TV show.

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Predator and Aliens franchises have also suffered the same dark fate (pun intended) . But Dark Fate has been the worst perpetrator of this quandary.

A Rev-9, practically invincible, self-replicating, nano-metal machine that literally no practical weapon could hurt.

One could simply ask: If Legion had Rev-9s in its arsenal, they could easily win the war. Nothing could stop those things, not conventional weapons, not unconventional weapons, not explosives, not water, not even a massive hydrostation turbine (which at most temporarily crippled it).

It took a fusion pack detonator in close range to finally fry it, so I'm guess nothing short of an ICBM or tactical nuke would stop more than a pair of those things.

It was beyond absurd.

The more intimate, Terminator-for-a-target approach for the first two films worked wonders. The first one especially; the horror feel and the dread of this thing never stopping; always tracking; that's what made it scary. It was practical and realistic in its depiction, too.

I know some people say repeating that formula would get boring, but a lot of it boils down to story, location, and execution of a well-written script. A good example of that is the IP Man movies. They didn't have to keep introducing more "powerful" characters, just different variations and scenarios for IP Man to encounter.

Using this tactic for Terminator could have worked for a couple of movies, and then give us a two-hour future war film based on the three-minute T2 intro sequence. Bam. Franchise complete.

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This!

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