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Do Movies not Need Characters?


This seems like the closest a mainstream movie has gotten to eliminating the concept of characters from the movie. The characterization is minimal and even moreso the development of character RELATIONSHIPS is almost non-existent. My IMAX 70MM theater was packed like I think it hasn't been since Force Awakens and there was no eruption of applause at the end, which I usually hear from even smaller crowds on most first showings of movies. The audience didn't feel emotionally moved.

I think the actors do a good job of creating some sense of identification solely with their performances and expressions, with Tom Hardy being the standout. Mark Rylance is the only one who really gets a chance to do it with dialogue.

But I think the approach was more of an interesting experiment than a cinematic success story. If James Cameron had taken this approach with Titanic, the movie would have cut out the first hour or so and not have been nearly as successful. Cameron introduced us to fully fleshed out characters with their own traditional cinematic character arcs because he believed that movies need that. I think Cameron was right. At times, Dunkirk feels more like a history lesson than it does a traditional movie. We're being asked to witness historical events, but we're not able to really feel them, because there aren't well-developed characters we can identify with to use as an emotional entry point into the story. There is a difference between watching characters die and caring if they die.

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Iow, it wuz borin

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I think the characters are supposed to represent every young private or fighter pilot....so extra details detract from that.

The mood at my showing was somber at the end....but I think that was from being emotionally drained, not a lack of positive reviews.

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Totally agree, that also applies to the cillian murphy character who represents traumatized soldier and several angry soldier who asked the air force involvement. Details given suffice its purpose imo

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Nolan movies have been lacking in terms of characterization ever since his debut. Ellen Page's sole purpose in Inception for example was to serve as a vehicle for exposition. Nolan only seems to be interested in concepts.

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Not every movie needs characters — 338,226 evacuated; 68,111 killed, wounded or captured

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the only reason to see it is for the beautiful IMAX 70MM Film presentation

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well put. There are essentially no characters at all in the movie. Like you said Rylance and Hardy stand out for their actions alone but it's not like we know anything about them at all. It really felt like an amusement park ride to me. Not to say it's crap, but I was at least somewhat disappointed. I might see it again and see how I feel, but I really think they could have done a better job in many ways.

The comparison to Cameron's Titanic is a valid one too. Even though we all already know what happens to the ship, there's much more weight to the events since we get to relate to the characters at least a little. Here the only setup is literally the opening titles explaining "the good guys are waiting for a miracle". Stunned they couldn't do better than that.

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