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I'm a Trump supporter and I liked The Last Jedi. Why is there so much hate for the new Star Wars?


I don't get why so many guys hate more women in Star Wars. I love women. The more women there are, the better.

And I hear the new Star Wars movie is great. Han Solo is back and it's going to make the movie even greater to the point where the fans are going to be tired of winning so much.

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I think that "Solo" is going to Make Star Wars Great Again !

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It was bad, political agenda or not

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I don't know why you would find her annoying. They were very short remarks and she gets killed in the end anyway so that shut her up for good. :p

The Lando loving part I took it as a silly joke but I think Lando did have something for her even though she didn't think it really so.

Anyway, she's dead Jim. The end.

The movie didn't make me cringe or call out SJW/PC crap as I thought it would to much of my surprise. Everything else did though since the movie was so generic and mediocre for it to be a Star Wars film.

People should be complaining about that fucking song that singer and dude in the jar was singing.

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I don't hate more women in Star Wars, I hate the way they are writing them. The women in these new films are perfect and are obviously part of a SJW agenda and it's getting really annoying. We understand women can be tough just like men, we don't need it shoved in our faces every other scene.

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They can't even be tough just like men though. I mean we've had women shoehorned into the role of men since Terminator 2 and Aliens and yet real life hasn't reflected art in that capacity in any way. Are we seeing more badass female snipers out-performing men? Are we seeing more badass female MMA fighters out-performing men? Are we seeing more badass female boxers out-performing men? It's like art has been twisted to reflect a reality that doesn't exist. Society has maintained itself the same as it always has since ever, no matter how hard our films and tv shows continue to push this false narrative.

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I'm liberal and a feminist and I hate the Disney SW films. I also hate the fact that I'm boycotting alongside some fans who are a bunch of misogynistic racist morons. Nevertheless, I support the female leads and more nonwhite characters in the films, but they need to be written well with a strong story.

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Ok well I think those types of fans are the minority because a lot of us who are boycotting hate the Liberal PC/SJW agenda Disney Star Wars is pushing

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Then you haven't been paying attention to Star Wars which always had a "Liberal PC/SJW agenda". Lucas was just better at writing and story-telling so it wasn't as obvious.

I don't really believe the new movies are Liberal, anyway. Finn is a black stereotype. Lando is a gay stereotype. Luke is an old person stereotype. None of the women characters are written well. Rose is there to be a romantic interest to Finn.

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>Then you haven't been paying attention to Star Wars which always had a "Liberal PC/SJW agenda".

>Keelai (1574) 17 hours ago
>I'm liberal and a feminist

"I suppose it is tempting, if the only tool you have is a hammer, to treat everything as if it were a nail."

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I hate the Disney SW films even though I'm Liberal and a Feminist. BTW, others do too. Having a female lead isn't the problem. Having a poorly written character is.

When you continually kvetch against the "SJW agenda", you empower Kennedy and Abrams to reply that you're a racist women-hater and they won 't change anything.

You sound like you're unaware that Lucas is obviously Liberal and had injected his viewpoint in his movies as well as always written strong female characters. You may want to listen to his interview re: Vietnam and the U.S and how it relates to the Empire and the Rebellion or what his message was with the prequels.

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It's always bah a PC/SJW agenda?? I don't remember any of the women characters being Mary Sues, the guys being dumbed down, the non white characters being there because of their race, etc. So no, it hasn't had an PC/SJW agenda. Maybe it was political at times, but it didnt go that extreme nor shoved any political agendas on our faces like Disney Star Wars has. Sorry to disappoint, but that's the truth. Also, the new Star Wars is Left wing, if not the far Left. If it was more Moderate, then maybe the characters would be better written, same with the story.

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I think we're basically saying the same thing.

Don't confuse Godawful writing with a liberal agenda. The writing in Last Jedi was garbage and I saw a lot of stereotyping and man-bashing. None of the female characters had any substance. When Gwendoline Christie (Phasma) was basically asked what makes her character special, her reply was the costume. Kennedy is playing lip service to feminism and liberalism. Even without the agenda, these movies would be horrible because Kennedy has no respect for Star Wars, its' fanbase nor has any real talent.

Leia was not an ordinary damsel in distress who needed rescuing from a male which was common in films when I was a kid. She quickly grabbed a blaster and saved everyone. She was a strong, well-written heroine created by Lucas. There are also many other good female characters throughout the SW universe like Padme, Mon Mothma, Asoka, Asajj Ventress, Mara Jade...

"I don't remember any... non white characters being there because of their race,"

I'll have to disagree right here. In 1977, there were numerous complaints about SW not having any black characters. Subsequently, Billy Dee Williams was announced for the sequel. Again, Lando is a well-written character. I also noticed much more diversity in the prequels. The point is that Lucas was more subtle about it and the story and characters always came first. There are political history lessons and warnings in Lucas movies which I won't get into, but they're also very subtle.

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Do you honestly expect us to believe that? The whole reason Trump won is to get away from the dogmatic identity/feminist/gender politics STAT! America voted in a troll just for the sake of giving the finger to the ultra far left commie crowd, and yet you're saying that as a Trump supporter, you appreciate everything the movie did that Trump is the antithesis to? Explain.

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Actually he won because America was tired of the radical far left agenda of Barack Obama that Hillary Clinton had every intention of continuing. The truth is most Americans care less about transgender bathrooms and care more about being able to keep more of their hard earned money. It was all about the economy which started to tank under Bush and then got 10X worse under Obama. Trump is breathing life back into the economy and all Americans just received a very generous tax cut. Now how can you argue with that especially since the Democrats have no message other than to obstruct and undermine Trump no matter what, even if what he's doing is good for the country?

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"Actually he won because America was tired of the radical far left agenda of Barack Obama that Hillary Clinton had every intention of continuing. "

That's pretty much what I said. The dogmatic identity/feminist/gender politics is part of the radical far left. I agree with everything else you said though. The only thing worse than Trump getting elected, is Trump doing well. That's like salt in the wound.

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What's wrong with Trump doing well? Isn't that supposed to be a good thing? :/

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It is a good thing. That's what makes it so bad. The radical left hate to admit that they benefit from a man that they loath more than Hitler.

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Oh ok

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