"Girl" ? Seriously?


"Girl" means female child. The main character in this film is a woman, not a girl. It's incredibly patronising to use the word "girl" when describing a woman.

Just imagine if the main character was a man. I hardly think the film would have been titled "Boy on the train" - that would have conjured up the image of a male child on a train.

It's surprising that this sort of thing is still considered acceptable in 2016.

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So The girl with the dragon tattoo, The girl with the pearl ear ring, Girls just wanna have fu-un, This girl is on fire, etc. are all about children?!

It's the title of the book anyway, should they have changed it to The alcoholic, divorced, unemployed, psychotic woman on the train?

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"So The girl with the dragon tattoo, The girl with the pearl ear ring, Girls just wanna have fu-un, This girl is on fire, etc. are all about children?! "


No! Of course they are not about children! You have just made my point for me! The word "girl" is used incorrectly.

Just try switching the word "man" and "boy" in a few movie titles and you'll see what I mean.

"The boy who knew too much"
"The third boy"
"The boy in the iron mask"
"Spiderboy"
"The boy from UNCLE"

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Except most women like, even prefer to be called girls - because of the age BS I guess.

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Except most women like, even prefer to be called girls - because of the age BS I guess.


Really? Are you sure about that?

Or is it just that men like to refer to them as such...?

To me, it seems patronizing in the extreme (though other views are available).

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40+ years old women is girl for you? You really think they not found you rude if you say them "girl"?

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Girl and woman is quite interchangeable in society today until a woman reaches her like 50's and older I suppose. Basically don't call an elderly looking woman a girl, but otherwise it's generally fine. The same does not go for interchanging man and boy. It's just another particularity of society I guess, you just have to accept it and move on.

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No, we don't have to accept it. And they may be interchangeable in some people's minds, but not all of society. And it's not otherwise generally fine simply because the woman is younger than 50!

Yes, this is part of a retro trend, also seen in titles such as the "Girl With the Dragon Tattoo" series, "Gone Girl," "New Girl," "Girls," etc. But being a trend doesn't mean it's universally acceptable. If a woman wants to refer to herself as a girl, fine, that's up to her, or if friends do it among themselves. If the description is imposed by someone else, especially a man, it marginalizes a woman as an adult.

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So WHO CARES? Nobody. It's just a damn hell of a good book and movie.

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"Yes, this is part of a retro trend, also seen in titles such as the "Girl With the Dragon Tattoo" series, "Gone Girl," "New Girl," "Girls," etc. But being a trend doesn't mean it's universally acceptable. If a woman wants to refer to herself as a girl, fine, that's up to her, or if friends do it among themselves. If the description is imposed by someone else, especially a man, it marginalizes a woman as an adult."

LIke the word inward with blacks (only a lot who insist on such double standard DO act like..uh...n words>)

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You mean like:

Bad Boys (1995)
Jersey Boys (2014)
The Fabulous Baker Boys (1989)
Tommy Boy (1995)
The Jerky Boys (1995)
Billionaire Boys Club (2017)

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This.^

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I guess "boys" is usually used for groups and not individuals (your exception is Tommy Boy, where I think it's supposed to emphasize the immature aspect of the character), and it's used to indicate a youthful behavior or lifestyle. Definitely not that of a 30-something divorced woman.

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But Spider-Man is a boy.

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I had no problem with The girl with the dragon tattoo or The girl with the pearl ear ring since they looked in their early 20s and I assumed it was common to refer to women that age as "girls" (and even men that age are refered to as "boys" sometimes, especially when in group during college age).
However I did find it odd to realize the "girl" on the train was a an adult 30-something woman. I didn't know it was socially acceptable to refer to them as girls.

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I agree but blame it on the girl who wrote the book.

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True. It was in the book's title. Surprising, though, given the author was female. You'd think she'd have more sense than that.

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Dare I say that she might have more sense than you do.

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What they^ said.

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Perhaps she just less sensitive than you are.

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Haha I like what you did there! And how the op was completely oblivious in their response to it. Bravo!

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<< I agree but blame it on the girl who wrote the book. >>

More likely, her publisher.
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who cares? and the answer is no one. no one cares about this because it's one of those common things that happens so much that the English language rules in this case don't matter. plus girls always like to roll back the clock and be seen as younger than they are. and girls love to be thought of as young and attractive which is what girls are.

guys don't care about looking young because their looking young isn't as important as women looking young because women don't care about looks as much as men do and because men can look good at an older age, 40-55 while women can't. they don't like to be called boy because it sounds bad and immature. with women it doesn't sound bad or immature unless the woman is 60 years old or older. it's just like how girls in their 20s and 30s and 40s don't like to be called ma'am because then they feel old.

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The title derives from thoughts the character has about how people would see her for getting involved in this mystery she should really have no involvement in. They'd cast her aside as 'the girl on the train.' It's patronizing because she feels she'd be patronized. She's an alcoholic with no sense of responsibility. In her own way, she actually is 'a girl' the same way you'd refer to an irresponsible, immature man as 'a little boy.'




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You overthinking.

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You're providing a very reasonable answer in a board full of misogynistic troll boys.

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Actually I read an article about this the other day, how some women hate the fact that Supergirl is Supergirl rather than Superwoman. I'm assuming most women would rather have the woman tag rather than the girl tag, same as most men with man as opposed to boy. Call a man a boy and he suddenly feels very put down.


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The thing with Supergirl is that there is ALSO a Superwoman. Guess she's not as interesting to make into a tv show. So I don't watch the show but one of my very openminded friends ranted against the argument the other day on Facebook and also claimed the show explains why she's 'super girl' on the show so idk.




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Pretty sure I read the title was masterminded to cash in on The Girl with the Dragon Tattoo and its follow-ups - the same way you get those low-rent movies with similar titles to big ones coming out on DVD around the same time.

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Good point. I hadn't thought of that.

OTOH, I am wondering if it is a reference to an Alfred Hitchcock story or a book? "Girl on the train" rings a bell.

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Hitchcock made a film called "Strangers on a Train," adapted from a novel by Patricia Highsmith. She also wrote the novels "The Talented Mr. Ripley" and "Carol," both made into movies.

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Good point. I hadn't thought of that.

OTOH, I am wondering if it is a reference to an Alfred Hitchcock story or a book? "Girl on the train" rings a bell.

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Not everything has to be tit for tat. Yes, in the English language, girl is to boy as woman is to man. But would you criticize someone for saying how ya doin'? Instead of how are you doing? Things become what is acceptable. I am 37 and I don't ever call myself a woman, ever. Woman sounds so old and frumpy and stick in the mud.

Almost everyone I know re Evers to themselves as a girl. Sure you can be offended, but not everyone is. But I don't ever say man, I'd never say "I met a man". I'd say I met this guy. The use of the term girl CAN be a compliment, because I would feel really weird if someone called me woman.

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