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If his dad was the Black Panther before him...(Spoilers)


...how come he died so easily from that bomb?

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because he got an explosion blast from his back plus the debris.

Why did Zod die of a broken neck?

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But where were all the operatives checking up for bombs and the like that we see be the case in Black Panther the movie?

As for Zod I remember reading someone make an argument for why he died before. It went something like this:

Clark/Kal-El has been on Earth for almost his entire life. He has slowly but surely built up a very strong tolerance to the power of the sun which means he is automatically stronger than Zod and his cronies and can recuperate faster than them too. Since these Kryptonians were still discovering their skills Clark had mastered them long before. Zod et al were soldiers though and so could put up a good fight against the self restrained Clark, at the end though, with nowhere else to take the fight Clark had to kill Zod and could only do so because Zod wasn't fully acclimatised with Earth's conditions yet.

Not my argument but I recall someone making it and, I suppose, it could be used to explain why Zod died.

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BP's dad died in Civil War in the UN council. Zemo's plan was flawless in that regard [for a movie, of course]. What I actually liked in CW was how Zemo addressed BP saying he was sorry for his father, that he was a good man with a beautiful son. I believe he meant it.


The explanation makes sense.

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I'm not against it, it just seems like BP takes place immediately after and the guards are all at high alert all the time as if it is normal.

I'm not nickpicking, I enjoyed both CW and BP. It just seems like this could have been addressed a little more to make more sense of the two stories overlapping.

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BP takes 1 to 2 weaks after CW if I'm not mistaken. Their King was killed, so its normal they are on high alert.

There's a bunch of stuff in BP I would rather have seen. T'Chaka's relatioship with his 2 kids, his past... more of that mystical place [specially the Panther God], more about the Heart-Shaped Herb... maybe a scene of T´Challas mother talking about his dad...

In all honesty BP is just another "see once" movie. Loved the character in CW [great intro. Stole the movie for me] but the entire PC shenanigans in BP made me roll my eyes a couple of times.

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I'm kind of hoping they put the T'Chaka thing to rest and focus on T'Chala and his reign.

I agree that it's a see once movie, but I'd happily see a sequel.

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well, it wouldn't make much sense to bring T'Chaka back again [unless under those visions]

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Visions could be okay, but in the third film maybe, not the next one.

To my mind at least.

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Not to derail the conversation, but a broken neck kills you because you sever the signal from your brain to your spine. I think the point TwistedAcrobat was making is that it does not matter how strong Zod (or Black Panther) was, but there are weaknesses in the body you cannot always protect even if you were infinitely strong. Since it is possible for a mortal man to sever the brain signal of another mortal man, it makes sense that it is possible for a super human to do it to another super human. Also, in the case of T'Chaka, a bomb could easily count as a super weapon far more damaging than an ordinary firearm. Just my two cents.

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Being superhuman does not mean you are bomb proof.

And that’s assuming he was still superstrong. T’Challa already had the herb and the suit by this point, likely because he was being groomed. T’Chaka was probably retired and either took the antidote to the herb or the affects wore off after a few decades.

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That makes quite a bit of sense AP!

I'm still a bit weird with there being no eagle eyed guards checking for bombs and the like. They were all over that in Black Panther.

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His dad might’ve wanted to keep up the third world nation charade a bit more than his son. Remember, we saw the Dore Milanje in Civil War as part of T’Chala’s entourage but not T’Chaka’s. I think it’s up to the king.

The Avengers being on sight at the UN might have made him more confidant as well.

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I'm happy either way, it's just a thing to chew over is all I am thinking AP.

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There can only be one Black Panther at a time.

Before CACW, T'Chaka had already retired from being Black Panther and passed the mantel onto his son.

T'Chaka drank the antidote and gave up his powers, T'Challa drank the heart-shaped herb and became super-powered. That's why he was already the panther in Civil War.

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Did T'Challa drink the antidote prior to fighting with M'Buku?

I'm pretty sure any dispute to the throne happens prior to the heart shaped herb drinking ggg.

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Yes, he drank the antidote to get rid of the herb powers he already had.

But he didn't have to fight his father to become Black Panther; T'Chaka just retired.

The king and the Black Panther can be two different people at the same time: That was the case before CACW.

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I must have missed the scene where he drank the antidote prior to fighting M'Buku then.

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