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One of the most infuriating aspects is the hubris.


The hubris that this Erich Von Daniken crap was good enough to be produced, let alone shown to people.

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It's annoying for sure, but what's scary is that millions of rubes believe in his bullshit theories.

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but not from Erich Von Daniken though, you have Ancestral Aliens and what not but nobody even mentions him. I think the same will be for Scott.

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He's not credited by Scott AFAIK, but the influences on the script are are obvious and unoriginal.

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yes but what I mean is that Scott won't be credited for anything except destroying this franchise.

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One of my issues with this movie is they didn't embrace it hard enough. If you're gonna infuse ancient alien theory into your mythos, go nuts. Make the whole movie about that, explore the hell out of it. Instead they just used it as a flimsy backdrop.

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and what could he have done with it?

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Ooh I've got a good example of embracing or doubling down on the ancient aliens concept, while making it VERY apropos to the Alien universe itself.

It could have been done in a sequel, but if the idea was used in Prometheus, it could have made for a powerful ending.

Basic idea is that, at the end when Shaw is confident we were created by the engineers, she sees this as their form of spreading their own.

The awakened engineer then makes it clear: Humanity was seeded on Earth SOLELY to test out the effects of the xenomorph bio-weapon. Earth was a shooting range that they seeded with simplistic versions of their own biology. The shooting range was supposed to be shut down after the tests were successful.

Humanity created as nothing more than target practice.

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The awakened engineer then makes it clear: Humanity was seeded on Earth SOLELY to test out the effects of the xenomorph bio-weapon.

Oh no! Return of the fanwank!

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Yes, it's fan fiction, I was suggesting an alteration to the storyline.

I presume you didn't read enough of it to see that, and/or couldn't keep up with basic statements such as "It COULD have been done in a sequel, but if the idea WAS used in Prometheus, it COULD HAVE..."

Anyway, it's fitting that your brain-dead failure of a response here is now over a month old, because that's the low level of attention it deserves.

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I must admit, your fan-fic plot makes more sense than the finished film.

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Damn, that's a great idea. We're an experiment run amok in the cosmos. That's awesome. Like their version of reborn neanderthals. But we end up becoming a different evolutionary path than they took, leading to AI.

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My problem with it is that the writer (was it Lindelof?) decided to ignore basic science and evolutionary theory to make the story work. Apparently these engineers bio-engineered humans in their image (since the engineers are already bipedal, humanoids that look exactly like us). So apparently Prometheus takes place in an alternate universe where we never evolved from ancient hominids and the fossil record just doesn’t exist (even though Millburn specifically brings up the theory of evolution during the briefing). So how exactly is this all supposed to work? It’s not like in AvP where the predators merely helped humans become more advanced as a civilization, it’s made clear that engineers designed human anatomy. It also means that these “scientists” are just creationists and evangelical Christians who decided to convince this trillionaire philanthropist to fund an advanced scientific expedition based on their religious beliefs, which is infuriating. At the end of the day this movie is nothing more than a creationist’s wet dream.

The story being your basic “Chariots of the Gods” format we’ve seen in tons of media beforehand, like Atlantis the Lost Empire, Mission to Mars, Dead Space, 2001, or even At the Mountains of Madness.

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I don’t believe in evolution. Seems like a highly improbable theory. Simple cells creating ever more complex beings? Different specifies having abilities that are vastly different and complex? Yet very similar attributes? Not logical.

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“Simple cells creating ever more complex beings?”

That’s how biology works, not sure why that’s so hard to believe.

Different specifies having abilities that are vastly different and complex?


Yeah it’s called adaptive radiation.

Evolution is the only real sensible theory, and so far it hasn’t been disproven .

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I watched a documentary that says it’s highly improbable at best.

https://youtu.be/U8qyjZ2EUpg

In Spanish but with subtitles. It points out the absurdity of it all.

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I wish they'd gone in a more Lovecraftian horror beyond man's ability to comprehend sort of direction, like the first Alien seemed to suggest.

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