How many seasons do you think this show has left?
Give it 2 more then end it.
shareIf they truly refresh the show, it can go another 8 seasons imo.
I was actually just wondering if the new Lethal Weapon show will influence the rumoured changes. There are more and more action shows coming to tv nowadays; MacGyver is coming back, a tv version of The Expendables, a new A-Team reboot.
NCIS:LA definitely needs its own soft reboot so it can keep up. I hope the tone of the show becomes more serious. LL did say the new showrunner is going to make it more "edgey". The early S8 episodes were good, but I still want to see writers who are specialist in action/thriller/spy/etc. working on the show. The soap opera aspect needs to be dropped. Yes have romance and comedy, but it needs to be better executed. Callen and Sam are one of the best partnerships on tv ever, and there are still so many stories you can tell, they just need the right writers.
I'd also like it if they changed locations, just like La Femme Nikita did. It's a good way to help a refresh.
Also from what Chris has said, he wants to do the show for a long time. He's no fool, he probably gets a good paycheck from NCIS:LA. Many movie stars of his age would love the steady work that he and LL gets. So I can see him and LL doing whatever they can to keep it going.
Thats awesome to hear, my friend I love the undercover operations, taking down terrorists and killers. They need to tone down the romance with Kensi and Deeks and focus more on the cases. Its good that Chris wants to keep playing Callen, for awhile.
shareYeah, here's Chris' comments from last year;
"On the other hand, I had so much success when I was a young guy," says O'Donnell. "It came very quickly."
"But deep down, I knew it wasn't going to last like that forever."
He was right. "I've been both hot and cold, and I know I've got it pretty good now. So, as long as we can keep turning out stories we feel good about, I would like to keep doing this show for a long time.
"On other shows, I see younger actors who are thinking about leaving and who want to have a movie career. They think the grass is always greener. But it's hard out there!"
On "NCIS: Los Angeles," he says gratefully, "We're working some pretty green pastures."
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That's one reason I was thinking Deeks might be leaving because of all the actors on the show, ECO seems to be the one doing more work outside NCIS:LA; he seems to be making a play for film roles--maybe looking for greener pastures, and he's not getting any younger and hasn't really been in any big films. I don't blame him; he's an actor, not actually Deeks and he should do whatever he thinks is best for his career--as they all should.
shareOh boy if Deeks leaves, that might cripple the ratings especially since him and Kensi have a huge fanbase
shareIf Deeks left I think the show would do just fine. There are as many viewers who can do without him as who like him (maybe more who can do without him). I'm one who wouldn't be bothered at all if he left the show. It would probably be an improvement.
shareThere are as many viewers who can do without him as who like him (maybe more who can do without him).
"Alternative Facts" and wishful thinking at its best! share
Not at all. The whole stupid Densi thing is why viewers dropped off in seasons 6 & 7. Plus lots of folks can't stand Deeks' immaturity and just plain silliness. He's an embarrassment to law enforcement and now the legal profession since he couldn't get himself out of LAPD custody--and didn't have enough sense to even ask for his union rep. Such a dope.
shareHmm thats an interesting viewpoint. It seemed to me that Kensi was ready to settle down and become a parent, after dating Deeks for so long. Altho I admit Deeks can be a bit of a dork
shareReally? I thought after that conversation this season in the first episode--when Deeks suggested they both quit and move to Bali--that Kensi made it clear she wasn't ready yet to settle down.
shareAgain "Alternative Facts" and wishful thinking. It takes one to know one. Show me your representative survey which shows that...
The whole stupid Densi thing is why viewers dropped off in seasons 6....
....otherwise your argument is unpersuasive and not meaningful. It´s just your opinion and if a handful of disappointed fans here on the board have the same perception......hello echo chamber!
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If you can't acknowledge that Deeks is a polarising character, then it is you who is living in an echo chamber. The poster is right, there are many fans who would be glad to see the back of him, just as there are those who'd want him to stay.
If you're suggesting otherwise, and saying the fanbase is predominantly Deeks fans and the show could not go on without him, then where is your survey to make that claim? You can ignore the fact that the Deeks/Densi centric seasons had the lowest ratings, that is up to you. Create your own reality, but it doesn't stop it from being true.
I haven´t make any claims for Deeks or against him. I´m relative impartial and free of prejudice when it comes to Deeks and therefore I have nothing to prove to anybody. The only thing that I stated is that as the other poster you have no proof that the lowest ratings were because of Deeks/Densi centric seasons! Your wild guess is no evidence and you have no reliability of data for your claim. Show me your representative survey which confirm your claim and I will applaud...otherwise your claim is just your opinion no more, no less!
shareWell, look at it objectively since you are "relative impartial and free of prejudice when it comes to Deeks and therefore have nothing to prove to anybody." The ratings are the evidence that when the series began focusing on Kensi and Deeks (otherwise known as Densi), the ratings in the U.S. took a nosedive. Now, some of that for season 6 might be attributed to the change of day, but IF that were the only reason, the ratings would have stayed the same or maybe even slightly improved in season 7. The ratings didn't. Instead, the ratings continued to decline. The ONLY change in the series was the increased focus on Densi. Now, it's true that many viewers OUTSIDE the US love Densi (especially in Europe based on comments on various NCIS LA sites), but, frankly, US advertisers couldn't give a rat's ass about what those viewers like since their ads aren't being shown there--and these advertisers are footing the bill. So, looking at the RATINGS--which are FACTS--and the changes in the story (the focus on Deeks), it's not a stretch to see the cause and effect relationship between them.
shareI don't see there being a change to focus on Deeks storylines above all others. There will always be episodes which focus on different characters at different points in the season, for example when certain actors are not available for filming. I still see the main focus being on Callen and the various aspects of his journey, which is the main reason I watch the show. The other reason is the great camaraderie between the cast and the character development.
The 'Densi' romance is kept to just about an acceptable level and I certainly hope they do nothing more than show the proper proposal (if the must, to shut up the Densi fans who are extremely vocal and complain about everything, thinking the show revolves around them).
For the most part I like Deeks (controversial on this board, I know). It is Nell I can't stand. She's just so arrogant and patronising.
I reckon the show will make it to ten seasons. With the possible exception of Linda Hunt, I can't see there being any cast changes - although never say never..
I watch the show mainly for the Callen--Sam partnership and the Hetty connection, but I like the other characters. I just find the whole Densi thing a real distraction from the show and Deeks to be the weakest character (there's no way somebody wouldn't have hauled his ass down--Hetty, Granger, Callen, Sam, or even Kensi--and explained what the term "sexual harassment" means, especially in a federal workplace) I wouldn't mind him leaving, but that's unlikely. I am glad that he's been the focus of fewer episodes this season; it makes the show more watchable IMO. What's interesting is how many guys have a problem with Nell. She's not "sexy" like Kensi or Anna, but lots of guys seem to have a problem with her intelligence and competency and see her as "arrogant and patronizing." Looks like guys are getting to know how a lot of women feel about those guy characters who act as if they're god's gift to women. lol
shareIt is true that a lot of fans either love or hate Densi, but the exact numbers are questionable, and to blame the lose in viewing figures on one storyline is presumptive to say the least. There are a multitude of reasons why viewers may have left, Densi is only one possible or maybe one contributing.
But If they are as you say polarising then it means that a lot of people watch the show for Densi as well as dropped off because of it. And that as a result, dropping the Densi relationship may also have a major negative impact on the ratings. It's a lot harder to regain lost viewers that it is to lose a chunk of existing fans.
So, unless one of them decides to leave, I doubt they will drop it, especially after years of building it up. They may tone it down, but I doubt they will end it.
Maybe, but Densi is the one thing that's really changed in the show. Again, the ratings speak for themselves. Once Densi heated up, the ratings took a dive--for a multitude of reasons, perhaps, but the Densi crap didn't help. Besides, losing all those viewers in Europe who LOVE Densi isn't going to hurt their ratings in the US.
They've toned it down this year--thank god--and their ratings have improved dramatically. cause and effect
For me the main reason that the ratings took a dive is that CBS moved NCIS LA for season 6 to monday, before that NCIS LA has delivered strong ratings for five seasons directly after NCIS on tuesdays and NCIS LA definitely benefited from the mothership (see also the ratings from NCIS New Orleans with the lead-in audience from NCIS) furthermore the competition on monday with Castle, The Blacklist and Blindspot was clearly tougher.....and when CBS moved NCIS LA for season 8 to sunday the ratings improved!
shareIt's obvious you don't like the Densi relationship and how it's portrayed, but again you've tried to link the lose in figures to that one aspect.
The fact it moved slots may have had a bigger impact. It has been shown with many shows that moving slot has an impact on viewing figures, so it cannot be ignored.
Densi fans are on both sides of the Atlantic, not just Europe. And it would hurt their figures because if European providers stop buying the show, it becomes less of a money spinner, and as such gets dropped. Producers rely on global audiences, not just US.
If you hate hat aspect of the show so much, I would advise you stop watching.
The fact you are still watching it, even after 2-3 seasons of heavy Densi storylines, says that the writers are doing something right.
And if you hated it as much as you try to portray here, you would not still be watching it, so I'm guessing your OTT posts are just for the Forums.
That's pretty presumptuous of you to ASSUME that I post my opinion just for the forums, but then, I'm not surprised.
Sure, the move may have had a bigger impact--and I never said it didn't have an impact--but even after the move, the ratings continued to decline, so I didn't ignore that fact. You ignored that I mentioned it in my previous post.
Of course Densi fans are on both sides of the Atlantic (and the Pacific), but many, many, MANY of them are in Europe as is evident by the many, many, MANY posts on various fan websites and their many, many, MANY youtube videos. I doubt that you could find ANY evidence of an American TV show with high ratings in the US being dropped because it doesn't have a huge fan base in Europe or in a country outside the US. That sounds suspiciously like an "alternative fact" and just plain stupid.
Strange as it may seem, I'm not actually interested in any advice you may offer about my TV viewing habits. And, just for your information, I only watched the episodes in season 6 & 7 that were NOT heavy with Densi dribble. I know how to turn off the TV--as do a lot of other NCIS: LA viewers in the US based on the show's very poor ratings in season 6 & season 7. So, you evidently don't know everything.