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Have most of the Nolanites now become Snyderites?


I have a theory most of the Nolanites have become Snyderites.

Back in the day, (early 2010s) you used to see Nolanites all over the internet hailing him as some kind of modern day visionary, acting like anything he said or did was infallible genius and his take on superheroes was the definitive version that all other filmmakers should strive to emulate.

What happened?

You never see people on the internet worship Nolan anymore, like they did when he was making his Batman trilogy. I ever talked to some hardcore former Nolanite saying my favorite Nolan film BY FAR was Interstellar because it was the ONE TIME it made sense for the film to be "grounded in reality" and stick with realism, due to the fact Nolan was making a film about space exploration INSTEAD of making a comic book movie. My former Nolan-lovin' friend dismissed the movie as "boring" and said he had no desire to see Interstellar ever again.

Nolan's film Tenet tanked at the box office and they all shrugged INSTEAD of defending it tooth-and-nail. Nolan recently bashed HBO Max as the "worst streaming service ever" just a few months ago, but that didn't deter ANY of the fanboys from rushing out to eagerly see "the Snyder cut" of Just-Us Fatigue on HBO Max. Remember when Nolan's fanboys all gloated that Heath Ledger was "ZOMG the bestest Joker evar!!!" and that nobody would ever top that? Well, they all changed their minds and now worship Joaquin Phoenix's Joker as some kind of masterpiece. Interesting their previous "definitive take" on the Joker didn't even last a decade before they threw it overboard for a shiny new toy. So much for "timeless".

So where did the Nolanites go? They disappeared around the SAME TIME Snyder fanboys started getting REALLY vocal on the internet (around the time Batman v. Superman was being filmed and hardcore Snyder fans went nuts ("How DARE you JUDGE it if you haven't SEEN it yet!!") if you CORRECTLY pointed out bad stuff he was doing, like casting Jesse Eisenberg as Lex Luthor)

His former fanbase now worships EVERYTHING Hack Snyder says or does. Snyder can even insult his OWN fans (denouncing Geeks + Gamers and calling them bigots after they funded his crappy vanity project) and all is forgiven a week later. They just turn the other cheek and coming crawling back for more.

Since Nolan and Snyder worked together on Man of Steel, it made it easy for Nolanites to morph into Snyderites since the two filmmakers have some common ground in their movies ("dark & gritty" tone, somber atmosphere, lack of humor, etc.) But now Snyder fanboys seem him and his mediocre film career as some kind of God-like gift to cinema, in a way they didn't back when they worshiped Nolan (e.g. you didn't see people on the internet sharing memes about Legend of the Guardians or Sucker Punch and telling everyone they were brilliant cinematic masterpieces, they were busy worshiping the mediocre Dark Knight Rises at the time)

Give there's almost no overlap between Nolan worship and Snyder worship, I am convinced 90% of the Nolanites simple converted their own beliefs into the cult of Snyder instead. The switchover occurred around the time Man of Steel came out ("how DARE you bash MOS, Nolan produced it and therefore its awesome").

Prove me wrong.

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I kinda have to agree. The Nolanites, aka the Snyderites, are people that pretend to be DC fans but aren’t really. They don’t seem to know what DC comics is all about, let alone how similar it is to Marvel comics in tone and themes. Many of them appear to be millennials or younger, yet they probably didn’t even watch any of the 90s cartoons, which is a great way to get started in the DC and Marvel franchises.

No, they started with The Dark Knight - which they likely didn’t even know was a sequel to Batman Begins until the trailers for Dark Knight Rises came out saying it was the end of a trilogy - and not only thought they high-tier art, but thought that DC as a whole was "dark and gritty" when compared to Marvel. The MCU had just started when Dark Knight came out, but despite there being enough Spider-Man and X-Men movies, as well as other lesser Marvel movies, to suggest otherwise, the Nolanites thought that Marvel was kid-friendly while DC was for high IQ adults, even though that isn’t true at all. Batman is dark and gritty, but not all of DC is like that. They rejected Green Lantern and embraced Arrow (for a while), and then they switched to the Snyder train when Man of Steel. Despite under-performing critically and financially when compared to the MCU, WB kept doubling down on the dark and grittiness until Wonder Woman, but by then the damage had been done. WB was listening to this fringe fan base that never understood DC in the first place. After the failure that was Josstice League, WB has been trying to course-correct ever since, to mixed success.

Thankfully, you don’t see much push from the Nolanites/Snyderites these days about how DC is for adults. Enough DC movies and shows have come out with more balanced tones and colorful outfits, and were for the most part successful. But for a little while, WB made mostly gritty and edgy DC projects because they listened to this vocal fringe group. Unfortunately, shows like Titans still persist. You’d think Titans would be cancelled by now, but evidently there’s still some people in WB that think fans want edgy DC crap.

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Too ponderous to read the OP.

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