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PREDICTIONS

posted 3 years ago by joi2049 (5501)
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What if Mare's mom did something to stop her from getting a sports scholarship so that she could go to college?

Maybe she LIED, for example, and told Mare that someone had called saying that what she'd done when she made that shot was "no big deal,"
and that the college also had several other applications like hers where other girls in other small towns had done the same thing, when that's also not true or what happened???

Then maybe her mother also threw away the acceptance letter that Mare was sent??? Or even sent back a letter saying that MARE declined the offer???

And what if one of the other girls who was on the team at that 25th CELEBRATION also spoke to someone else who mentioned something about how surprised they were when MARE turned down the scholarship??? Then they mention it to MARE, who confronts her mother about it, and then asks her to leave after she discovers what she did???

And what if her mom then moves in with MARE's former husband, who also sues for custody of the grandson? And then her mother also testifies against Mare in court saying that she's too busy dealing with other people in the town to have custody???

And maybe the daughter will also move out after she has a fight with MARE over not getting her college application in on time???

Then MARE would also end up living there in her home all alone (which could probably also make it easier for the killer she's seeking to attack her).

Yes?

No?

Maybe so???

What kind of other PREDICTIONS do you have for where you think the story might be heading???

[–] joi2049 (5501) 3 years ago

Read a REVIEW from VULTURE that says "something happens in Ep 5 that made them GASP."

My PREDICTION is Mare goes to visit the writer to tell him how much she likes his book -- only to discover that her mother is there at his place -- which also means Guy's character will have had affairs with both the GRANDMOTHER and with the "GREAT GRANDMA."

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[–] joi2049 (5501) 3 years ago

I predict the town's "PEEPING TOM" turns out to be the man who purchased the SECURITY CAMERA, put it up, and then didn't install it or turn it on for 3 MONTHS after he buys it.

Because why else would a man with a wife who NAGS him as much as his did endure being reminded to do it for that long of a length of time without doing it???

It would be because it would keep him from SPYING on the undressed person who takes the shower.

Also 📌 NOTE the way he also agrees to install the camera after that girl leaves town and went back to another different town (Allentown) again.

But if we never see him again, and he also turns out to be the KILLER, then that would be just as disappointing as when the killer in S1 of "TRUE DETECTIVE" turns out to be the lawn mower man (who was also another character that we hardly ever saw in that story).

[–] joi2049 (5501) 3 years ago

There's a couple of things that are bugging me about Guy's character Richard.

The first is the way that he still calls Mare "LADYHAWK" in Ep. 1 as she leaves his place (even after she also already told him that she didn't like to be called that).

Then the way that he stands there talking to several other female fans (after he's also the one who invited her to be there as his guest) was also EXTREMELY RUDE.

And he also tries to GLOSS over having ignored her by telling her how BEAUTIFUL he thinks she looks.

So the charm of this "PRINCE CHARMING" (who has a way of saying the right things all of the time) is also starting to wear a bit thin (due to the way that his actions also don't seem to match up with the clever kinds of words that he uses as a way to try and charm and manipulate Mare into doing whatever it is that he wants her to do).

What's also interesting is how her new CO-WORKER is also very charming as well, but his "awkwardness" also comes off as being much more SINCERE than the other kind of much more SOPHISTICATED "SMOOTH TALK" that she's getting from Guy's character (who also comes across as NOT being "awkward" -- which is probably also due to the way that he's probably also had plenty of more PRACTICE than her co-worker has at trying to SMOOTH TALK and manipulate other people)???

While MARE is busy digging into the life and background of DYLAN, I'm also hoping that she'll run a background check on Guy's character Richard (who we also still know next to nothing much about). Was he married before, does he have any children??? All we know so far is that he wrote a book and teaches writing courses??? But we also don't even know what the book is about???

How IRONIC is it that MARE knows so much about the rest of the people in her town, yet doesn't seem to be very curious at all for some reason about the life of the guy that she's picked up in a bar (and then had what was suppose to have been a "one night stand" with)???

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[–] brrrrStickem (64) 3 years ago

Just a pure guess, but I believe you hit the nail on the head with Richard's manipulative ways. I am guessing he is using Mare for either a crime book he is writing or that he is the killer and keeping her close to keep tabs on the investigation.

[–] joi2049 (5501) 3 years ago

Yes that's also what I'm thinking as well brrr. His character is just TOO PERFECT or too good to be true with that PRINCE CHARMING kind of CHARM of his (which may also not be SINCERE).

Because when he uses FLATTERY (telling her how BEAUTIFUL she looks), as a way to change the subject after he's invited her to his book signing party and then ignores her, that also indicates the nice things he says to her have a diversionary purpose.

Still another thing that may explain the reason why he's there in town may also have something to do with his being the father of someone's child.

Perhaps he might also be the actual father of Drew, for instance, who is Mare's grandson. Because she also told his doctor that her son KEVIN was diagnosed as being AUTISTIC.

Or maybe he's the father of the girl who gave birth to DREW and is "FISHING" for info that his daughter can use against MARE in the CUSTODY battle???

So that would also parallel the other way that Erin was what one character calls "CATFISHED" by Dylan's PSYCHO girlfriend.

Hopefully we'll also get a clue at some point what kind of a novel it is that he's written and what it's about. Mare doesn't even seem to know anything about it at all, even though she also knows everything else about everyone else in that town.

Also read another story by Graham Greene where the DETECTIVE in a town was also the last one to figure out what everyone else in the town already knew.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Heart_of_the_Matter

And it also looks like MARE might be another character like Greene's Scobie (due to the way that her family also keeps keeping things secret from her-- like the wedding plans -- and her daughter being a witness to the beating of Erin -- and how Drew's mother filed for CUSTODY of her grandson).

So ironically the town cop is also the last one to know what the others in town already know.

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And the PREDICTION is that at some point RICHARD is going to end up being a character WITNESS against her in the CUSTODY battle for her grandson -- when he explains how he picked Mare up at a BAR and had sex with her -- after which she also told him that it was just a "ONE TIME THING."

And that will also make MARE sound like she's some kind of a sleazy whore who picks up lots of other guys the same way, which will also make her look unfit and help to prevent her from having CUSTODY or maybe even visitation rights regarding her grandson Drew.

[–] joi2049 (5501) 3 years ago

I predict the DEACON threw the bike over the BRIDGE and down into the water because he's trying to HIDE the FACT that ERIN's death was really a SUICIDE.

And since that's also a MOTAL SIN, he wants it to look like it was a HOMICIDE.

[–] joi2049 (5501) 3 years ago

After reading this WONDERFULLY INSIGHTFUL REVIEW of EP. 3, here's still another PREDICTION:

Mare of Easttown Season 1 Episode 3 Review: Enter Number Two

https://www.tvfanatic.com/2021/05/mare-of-easttown-season-1-episode-3-review-enter-number-two/

Carrie killed ERIN because KEVIN is the father of her child (and she wanted REVENGE just like the other girl who BEATS Erin for sending a TEXT to DYLAN).

Remember how Carrie was also LOCKED UP in REHAB and was only recently released (which could also explain the reason for the long delay in seeking revenge on Erin).

Therefore, the story ends with Carrie going to JAIL for killing ERIN and with MARE having CUSTODY of both DREW and ERIN's child (who will also turn out to be her grandchild).

And if that's the case, then the DNA SAMPLE that FRANK gave the cops might also look like he might be the father (due to the way it's his DEAD SON KEVIN who would actually be the father of Erin's child --Kevin who would also share 50% of his GENETIC make up with his father FRANK).

Yes?

No???

Maybe so ???

Anyone else have any other ideas???

[–] joi2049 (5501) 3 years ago

Does anyone remember how long MARE's son KEVIN has been dead?

Because if he's been dead for longer than 2 YEARS, that would probably also mean the theory about CARRIE killing ERIN out of Jealousy (because KEVIN's the father of ERIN'S child) wouldn't work.

Because if the baby is 1 year old, and it takes 9 MONTHS to give birth, that also means KEVIN being dead for longer than 2 years would rule him out as being the father of her baby.

And Does anyone else recall precisely how old the infant is suppose to be?

[–] joi2049 (5501) 3 years ago

IF it does happen to turn out that Mare's son KEVIN is the father of ERIN'S child ...

that could also explain the reason why FRANK was taking DIAPERS and BABY WIPES to her.

Because he may also KNOW he's the GRANDFATHER.

But maybe that could also still result in his looking like he's the FATHER -- if his DEAD SON is the father -- (due to the way that they both share 50% of the same DNA)???

Therefore I also PREDICT that FRANK's going to be ARRESTED after the DNA tests come back.

[–] joi2049 (5501) 3 years ago

In case anyone needs a reminder of what's happened so far as a way to help you make a PREDICTION, here's a brief list of events that took place in the first 3 episodes:

Mare is called about a PEEPING TOM
Brianna attacks and beats up ERIN
Erin's body is found
Mare arrests Brianna
Brianna's father Tony stalks Mare and breaks her WINDOW
ERIN's father Kenny kidnaps and shoots DYLAN
Erin's friend Jess says Mare's former husband Frank (not Dylan) is the father of Erin's child
Deacon Mark dumps Erin's bike into the river
Mare is fired from her job for putting Heroin in Carrie's car (as a way to try to keep her from getting custody of her grandson Drew).

The conclusion that one draws from looking at this list is EASTTOWN is full of LUNATICS.

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[–] joi2049 (5501) 3 years ago

Since he burns her JOURNALS, LOOKS like DYLAN might have killed Erin. If not, there's definitely something else in them that he wants to hide.

And the way he took the MONEY from the envelope that was for the baby's ear surgery also makes DYLAN look EVIL. And the way he treats Brianna and Jess also seems to further confirm he has a demonic personality.

If DYLAN didn't kill ERIN then her UNCLE may have. Because he was also acting pretty STRANGE when talking about how Erin had lived in his BASEMENT for a couple of months. And in the PREVIEW CLIP it also looks like he hides a GUN inside of a tackle box.

At first I incorrectly assumed it was Erin's father doing it, but since they said he's in jail, it must be his brother. And that also makes Erin's uncle look very suspicious.

If someone runs a DNA test on him and find out he's the father of Erin's son, that may also be a MOTIVE for killing her (if she also threatened to tell her father-- if her uncle didn't fork over some MONEY for the EAR SURGERY-- which may also be the money that we saw DYLAN taking out of that envelope-- that said it was for DJ'S EAR SURGERY).

[–] joi2049 (5501) 3 years ago

Found this link where it suggest the SHOW could be wrapped up with MARE solving both the MISSING KATIE case and the other death of Erin matter:

https://slate.com/culture/2021/05/mare-of-easttown-hbo-serial-killer-twist.html

After a big swerve in the fourth episode and an even bigger one in the fifth, what kind of show are we watching now?

Mare of Easttown, Big Little Lies, and Sharp Objects all have a similar description: a female movie star–led murder mystery airing weekly on HBO.)

After a few episodes of slowly setting up and smacking down red herrings—a solid strategy for maintaining tension without building up so much the show buckles underneath it—in Episode 4, the series took a hard swerve out of anthropological observation to give us a villain straight out of a serial killer show.

All season, a cold case had been hanging over Mare’s head: the disappearance and presumed death of the daughter of one of her high school friends. Mare, on leave from the police for planting drugs in her dead son’s drug addict ex-girlfriend’s car—in order to prevent her from getting custody of Mare’s grandson, natch—sees a news story about another missing woman and has her eureka moment: She’s dealing with a serial killer.* Mare may have ethical lapses, but she’s a great cop, and she and Zabel get to work, cracking a case that’s been hanging over her for a year

Mare and Zabel unknowingly close in on the killer, who’s still holding young women captive in his attic. It all goes bad very fast and the top of Zabel’s head is blown off.

And I'm also thinking about what the now DEAD WOMAN said to MARE way back in episode 1, where she told her she "needed to find another line of work."

Because with the death of Colin, maybe MARE might also decide the woman was right and end up quitting her job???

Or maybe she might also end up getting her head blown off by someone the same way as COLIN did ???

Heaven knows this town has enough LUNATICS running around in it to have the same kind of a thing happen again !!!

So WHO might be the one to do it???

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*-DYLAN??

*-Brianna's father TONY (who threw the milk through her window)???

*-The other guy at LORI's house who didn't finish drinking his beer and left in a "BIG HURRY" after they discussed ERIN staying with him at his house in his basement???

*-CARRIE who is SUEING for CUSTODY of her son???

*-Someone else???

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I could also see the show ending with a CLIFFHANGER where we hear a GUN SHOT and see MARE falling down, but then it also ENDS with us never knowing if she lives or dies (not unless the show is RENEWED AGAIN for another season like the case was with "BIG LITTLE LIES)."

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[–] joi2049 (5501) 3 years ago

I PREDICT MARE's MOM is going to screw the DEAD WOMAN's husband again (the one who hit the POLE and knocked out the power).

And I also predict she finds something connected to the death of ERIN there on the SECURITY CAMERA when she checks it and tries to DELETE her arrival to the house on it.

[–] raymondoz2007 (2098) 3 years ago

The lezbo daughter

[–] SweaterGirl (10) 3 years ago

This is really out there, but.
I do think Kevin is Erin's baby's father. The child is one year old, plus 9 pregnancy months = 21 months. Mare said her son killed himself and said "it'll be 2 years in..." and then I don't remember how far away from 2 years she said. But 2 years is 24 months, and it hasn't been the full 2 years, so if Kevin died 21 months ago or less, he could have gotten Erin pregnant just before he died, possibly never even knowing it. It would explain Frank's helping Erin.
The theory that I have that's really out there is...what if Kevin only appeared to have killed himself...but in reality...MARE killed him??? Remember the scene with her friend Beth when she confides that her heroin-addict brother was "ruining their marriage" and that sometimes she wishes he would just go ahead and die?? Perhaps Mare killed him and made it look like suicide. It would explain her obessive attachment to Drew, and also the fact that she is the only one in the family who will not talk about her son. Hell maybe her dad didn't kill himself either, maybe she did.
Erin? Could Mare have killed Erin? She saw her son's ghost right before she got the call. The night of the murder, she was seen at the basketball ceremony and at the bar with Richard. We saw her go home with Richard, then next we see she is coming home and her mother points out it is 3:30 am. Erin was killed around 2. We don't know how long Mare was unaccounted for between leaving Richard's and getting home. I don't know what possible motive she could have, but Zabel did say his earlier case was solved by a missing hour in someone's alibi.
My next best guess would be that Carrie killed Erin, as theorized earlier. So that would mean that Frank, Carrie, possibly John, possibly Jess, Siobhan, the deacon, and Billy could all know Kevin is the father, with only Mare not knowing. That theme of everyone being in on something except Mare is heavily underlined in this show many times.
Just thinking outside the box.

[–] joi2049 (5501) 3 years ago

WOW!!! That's definitely some interesting thoughts that you have about Mare killing her own son (and possibly also Erin), but do you really see anything that indicates she's someone who would do that??

Yes she plants the heroin in Carrie's car, but that's also to try to protect her grandson from going through the HELL that she knew he would if he was FORCED to go live with his mentally ill mother who is also addicted to drugs.

My next best guess would be that Carrie killed Erin, as theorized earlier. So that would mean that Frank, Carrie, possibly John, possibly Jess, Siobhan, the deacon, and Billy could all know Kevin is the father, with only Mare not knowing. That theme of everyone being in on something except Mare is heavily underlined in this show many times.

This idea makes much more sense !!!

It would also explain the reason why her daughter Siobhan looks as "GUILTY as SIN" when MARE asked her about seeing Erin the night she died, and then she told Mare "YES she'd told her EVERYTHING." Because that would also be a LIE if she withholds telling her mother that her brother was the father of ERIN's son.

So WHY do you think they HIDE things from her??? Mare's mother HELEN also HIDES the fact that her former hubby Frank was getting married (even though all of them also went to his ENGAGEMENT PARTY in MARE'S backyard instead of going to her 25th ANNIVERSARY that celebrates her FAMOUS BASKETBALL SHOT).

Could the reason why they HIDE things from her be because they're AFRAID she might also KILL HERSELF the same way as MARE'S father and her SON killed themselves???

But now that she's getting some therapy for her DEPRESSION, maybe they'll also be more willing to OPEN UP and tell her things they've been HIDING from her???

Also Wonder why we see her "SLAPPING SOIBHAN" in that PREVIEW CLIP??? Did she learn something by watching that VIDEO HOMEWORK assignment she's doing about KEVIN???

Could Mare watching it also have something to do with her daughter not telling her mother something important??? Like maybe her former friend BECCA could also be the KILLER??? Because she's also a DRUG ADDICT (like Carrie), and we also saw her throwing up after the death of Erin.

And she was also there the night Erin dies, and her lover tried to help Erin after Brianna beats her up. Then we also saw the other bedroom scene where she REJECTS the EMBRACE (as if she's ANGRY about something). And we also saw her "FREAK OUT" (YELLING) when she runs out of the house when she saw her kissing the other girl from the RADIO station (and knocks down Mare's Mom who goes to the hospital).

So maybe BECCA was also JEALOUS of ERIN for some reason??? (Maybe that could also explain the reason why she FREAKS OUT when she catches SIOBHAN kissing the other girl if she's also killed ERIN)??? Could ERIN have also been BI-SEXUAL or something??? Maybe she had affairs with BOTH KEVIN and his sister???

Or maybe KEVIN also RAPED ERIN, and that's how she got pregnant???

He definitely seemed HOSTILE and CRAZY and SELFISH enough (in that bathroom scene where he STEALS MONEY for DRUGS from MARE'S PURSE) to have done something like that.

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[–] SweaterGirl (10) 3 years ago

A couple responses:
First, I do agree my ideas are "out there," and no, I don't as yet see Mare as "a person who would do" the things I hypothesized about.
2, I don't see Becca as being any kind of killer. An addict? A pothead. To me those are 2 different things. She may be overindulging lately, and turning away from, Siobhan, because she knows more than we know she knows.
3, I don't see Kevin as a rapist, or even as a bad person. I have former and current addicts in my family, and I know that under the addiction they are still, somewhere, the kind, loving, goodhearted people they used to be. I think if Mare did kill her son, it might have been either in self-defense (he does physically attack her in her flashbacks) or out of mercy, or out of concern for Drew. The families of addicts, man...I was the one my sister came to about her addiction...while I would never be the killing type...I watched my father react in visceral anxiety every time the phone rang. For years. Just dreading that OD call. Thankfully my sister was much stronger than I would have bern and did the hard work of recovery, and is 12 years clean. But my point is that when you're an addict, the addiction takes over, and sometimes one has to protect oneself from the addiction that presents, not from the person we love.
4, Siobhan very well may be bisexual, and quick to abandon relationships, but I see her as merely knowing more than she is telling, rather than as a killer. And mark my words, she knows something, and is hiding it. This was evident from her lip biting and head ducking during Mare's confrontation of Frank about his relationship with Erin.
More tomorrow, gotta hit the hay. But I'm totally obsessed with this show, and these characters!

[–] joi2049 (5501) 3 years ago

1. Your ideas about Mare killing her son aren't OUT THERE as much as they seem OUT of CHARACTER. Otherwise, the connection that you made to the other character saying how she wished sometimes her brother was gone are pretty good. Because MARE may also feel GUILTY about thinking the same way about her son.

2. Great observation about Becca. But does pot cause you to vomit??? Can't recall others getting sick from smoking it. Also LOVE the idea she may know MORE than we know she knows!

3. Also great points about Kevin and addiction. Sorry to hear what you went through with your sister, but also happy to hear she's recovered. Why do you think Kevin kills himself? Could that also have been an ACCIDENT? Can hardly wait to see if we find out more about what happened to him SUNDAY night.

4. I was thinking maybe Siobhan got involved with Becca because she's an ADDICT like KEVIN use to be. So maybe hooking up with Becca may also have made her miss her brother less if she was taking care of her the way she use to do her brother???

I don't see Siobhan as being the killer. At first I thought Becca may have been jealous of ERIN kissing Siobhan (if she had followed Erin to comfort her after the beating and then Becca came looking for Siobhan and found them together). But since we learned Erin was killed in that other area (where Mare found the BULLET in the tree) down the drain goes that theory.

And I also completely agree about how Siobhan knows more than she told MARE (due to the GUILTY look she had on her face after saying she'd told her EVERYTHING).

Hope you have pleasant dreams!!! I've also began another NEW TOPIC that you might like about "WHAT ELSE HAPPENED to ERIN" after she's beaten up.

https://moviechat.org/tt10155688/Mare-of-Easttown/60a83754f42c933c1627d6c6/What-else-happened-the-night-when-Erin-died

Perhaps that other topic will also be able to provide some further fuel for your thoughts and for the obsession that you have with the show??? 😉

[–] SweaterGirl (10) 3 years ago

I think all of your thoughts are quite strong! I will check out your other thread!
Just a note, you asked why Becca vomited if it was just pot....all I know is that her friends said she had "had a lot of edibles" just before that. Never tried those so don't know, but seems like anything eaten could make one vomit. :)

[–] joi2049 (5501) 3 years ago

Perhaps what they meant when they say "edibles" is that she ate or took some kind of "PILLS" (like we saw that other Addicted girl doing just before she's kidnapped and then thrown into the same prison area with KATIE who then helps her with her withdrawal)???

So maybe it was also some kind of PILLS that Becca took that made her vomit???

I'm thinking Becca being wasted as much as she seemed to be (and so much so that she couldn't perform with the band) indicates she's also an ADDICT as well??? Because when other people smoke pot in other films and TV shows it usually also doesn't make one as unable to function like the way she seemed to be???

And Becca being an ADDICT would probably also explain the reason why Soibhan put up with it. And it might also explain why she'd feel the need to help her (the same way as she probably also tried to help her ADDICTED brother)??? But maybe she also reached the point where she finally got fed up with her behavior and accepted the date with the other girl???