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Sometimes I feel like I'm the only person who likes this movie

posted 4 years ago by AmeriGirl26 (12839)
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I'm not a fan of the cartoon version of "Alice in Wonderland," nor did I really enjoy the books either. However, I did enjoy "Care Bears in Wonderland," and I kept wondering why for a few years, until I realized that I liked the Care Bears version better, because it had an actual storyline without ruining the Wonderland setup.

That's partially what led me to liking this movie. That, and I read a leaked script. Part of the reason I like it, is that Alice learns it's a real place, not just a "dream" she had as a child, and that it's more complicated than she initially thought as a kid. She also learns how to be brave and strong, not to doubt herself all the time.

It was fun to see the key characters with more development, as well as interesting interpretations of the Bandersnatch and the Jabberwocky. I got a real LOTR vibe from the latter, though I blame Christopher Lee's voice work for that ;).

I am somewhat dubious about the Red Queen and Queen of Hearts being merged into one character, but Helena Bonham Carter did a brilliant job of the role. Anne Hathaway was great as the White Queen. I loved the way the Mad Hatter was portrayed, particularly how he changes personalities when he gets dark and serious, and the others have to snap him out of it, or how he's too nuts to be scared on the battlefield.

The visuals were also stunning for this movie. It all looks very real, despite being CGI.

I was sad to hear that the "romance" they had in the original script between Alice and the Mad Hatter was never to be, but honestly, the actors couldn't bring themselves to kiss each other, due to the age difference.

The movie does have flaws, such as Alice wearing no corset and a childish dress to an adult party, particularly when she's of marrying age. Or how she wants to strike up a partnership with her ex-fiance's dad and expand their trade to China. No guy would have taken her seriously in the real 1850s world. Thankfully all that's just an afterthought to the real adventure in "Underland."

[–] R_Kane (15828) a year ago

A huge flaw in the movie is the misuse of “ jabberwocky.” It is an adjective, not a noun. It means, “of, or pertaining to, the Jabberwock.” The creature itself is the Jabberwock.

If you’re gonna do something, do it properly.

[–] AmeriGirl26 (12839) a year ago

Now the Jabberocky poem is interesting to read, despite being a nonsense poem. It's because of that poem, that we have interesting words like "vorpal," which now means "super-sharp," and is sometimes used in D&D games, particularly when referring to super-powerful swords, or killer rabbits, lol.

[–] R_Kane (15828) a year ago

Lewis Carroll was a genius.

[–] AmeriGirl26 (12839) 17 days ago

Hey, if you want a good laugh, I saw a great skit from one of the 1970s SNL episodes where they had Ricky Ricardo as a host, and he was reading the Jabberwocky poem with his Spanish accent. It was awesome xD Halfway through the poem, he stops and says, "Who the hell talks like this?" lol Then he tossed the paper aside and walked off, yelling in Spanish, hehehe.

[–] [deleted] a year ago

Johnny Depp is a turn-off for ANY movie.

[–] HarveyManFredSin (4877) a year ago

So, you haven't seen Edward Scissorhands, Ed Wood or Sweeney Todd, or you're one of those braindead Amber Heard simps who are besotted with a untalented attention-seeking blonde b-level actress trying to destroy an ACTOR who has actually made genuinely intersesting and acclaimed films (as opposed to say London Fields [0% on RT, people]. Get a life.

[–] [deleted] a year ago

Wow, the ASSUMPTIONS made here!

Of course I've seen those movies, and early Captain Jack Sparrow was great, but while I don't give a toss about this Amber Heard, it's surely affected his career, hasn't it?

Besides, his last few movies have been failures, like that weird moustachioed English gent that was awful and a flop, and one about a gangster or something. Yeah, so bad I can't remember them.

But the movies you mentioned, of course! Depp was great in his heyday!

[–] HarveyManFredSin (4877) a year ago

Fair enough. I haven't liked most of his recent films either (and, in all fairness, he has been a large part of the problem with his 'quirky' overplaying), but when you said "Johnny Depp is a turn-off for ANY movie" it stands to reason that one is going to infer that you mean ALL Depp's movies (including the ones I mentioned).

I haven't seen Black Mass (the gangster one I think you're referring to), but I do believe that it was acclaimed, and possibly worth watching (unlike the majority of his other films during the last 15 years or so).

[–] [deleted] a year ago

Yeah, I didn't mean Depp was a turn off for ANY movie, really, but in this one, he does look really freakish with his CGI-augmented eyes. This film was just plain nuts in so many ways elsewhere, too.

[–] HarveyManFredSin (4877) a year ago

I'm a huge Tim Burton fan (which is really the only reason why I'm much of a fan of Depp to begin with), but this movie truly sucked. I'm torn between picking this or Planet of the Apes 2001 as the worst film of Burton's career (I mean, at least this one looks like a Burton film, I guess, and it does have some nice costumes).

[–] [deleted] a year ago

Planet of the Apes 2001 is worse by far! That ending at the Lincoln Memorial in DC is just plain baffling! And I've been to it for real, as well!

[–] HarveyManFredSin (4877) a year ago

I'm not going to defend the ending of POTA 2001 and it *is* a bad film, but, if anything, this one felt even more incoherent. POTA 2001 was simply bland for the most part (although there were a few nods to Burton's underrated knack for satire in the ape town scenes).

[–] Johanesse (448) 17 days ago

Don`t worry, you`re not the only one who likes this movie. I happen to like it, too. The visuals, the score and the overall whimsy and wonder of the picture.

[–] AmeriGirl26 (12839) 17 days ago

It's kinda weird, but I like the Alice in Wonderland story more when there's a distinct plotline woven into it, usually from a variation in the story being told, rather than the original.

[–] Johanesse (448) 17 days ago

Perhaps, but you know that we have each of our own tastes and likes. And tastes can be subjective, so there`s nothing truly weird about it.