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Justice League 653 Million WW. When is it going to pass Dr. Strange? Wait! What? Dr. Strange?


Thor 3 just kicked this movie's ass. 850 Million, opening the same year...

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I'm sure it's got a $24-million "favorable weekend bump" out there yet! I'll bet Doctor Strange is quaking as if Dormamu himself were nipping at his heels!

****SARCASM MODE OFF****

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When is Dr S going to beat Suicide Squad? Why would a certified fresh movie make less than a rotten movie?

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A low-tier single-character Marvel movie (and his first movie, too) shouldn't be competing in the same category as a multi-character flagship DC movie.

Suicide Squad should compete in an Avengers type of category.

Also, plenty of certified fresh movies make less money than rotten ones. I'm sure "Three Billboards" has made far less money than "Transformers: the Last Knight."

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A multi-character flagship that (supposedly) featured the Joker (one of the most recognizable comic book villains of all time), Batman, Harley Quinn, and Will Smith, none-the-less!

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I think it would have done far better if it was called Face Squat, and just had Harley Quinn versus Wonder Woman.

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I know it labels me as a male chauvinist pig... but I think I would have paid to see that movie!

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Wasn't Batman and the Joker also in Suicide Squad helping to boost Box Office????

When is Dr S going to beat Suicide Squad? Why would a certified fresh movie make less than a rotten movie?


Basically the question is nothing more than a non sequitur that you needn't dignify with a response.

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Butthurt eh? Preparation H helps. Good look with that!

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are you fucking shitting me? Dr Strange competing against a team up movie with Batman , Joker , Harley Quinn and Wonder Woman ? let me tell you one thing, if they do a sequel for SS it wont make anywhere near 800 mill.

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Wonder Woman ? She was in the Wonder Woman movie.

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Yeh my bad was thinking bvs

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The difference between comparing Suicide Squad and Doctor Strange is the level of expectation the studios set for each movie going in to production. With Doctor Strange, Marvel knew they had a third-tier hero, and produced a film with a smaller budget ($165 million) and lower expectations. With both Suicide Squad and, especially, JL, DC went in with higher budgets and higher expectations. This is why both Suicide Squad and Doctor Strange are considered financial successes, while JL is not.

To illustrate that, let's play a little game... and play this one honestly, if you can. I am going to list all of the DCCU and MCU movies produced in 2016 and 2017, followed by WW box office totals. Now, pretend you are back in January of 2016, before any of these movies came out. If I were to give you this list in January of 2016 (and you knew nothing of the "future"), and asked you to match the PREDICTED box office with each movie, how would you have answered?

Batman vs. Superman: Dawn of Justice
Captain America: Civil War
Doctor Strange
Guardians of the Galaxy: Volume 2
Justice League
Spider-Man: Homecoming
Suicide Squad
Thor: Ragnarok
Wonder Woman

$655 million
$680 million
$750 million
$825 million
$850 million
$865 million
$875 million
$880 million
$1.15 billion

If you can be honest and objective, most people, two years ago would have answered like this:
$655 million - Doctor Strange
$680 million - Thor: Ragnarok
$750 million - Spider-Man: Homecoming
$825 million - Wonder Woman
$850 million - Suicide Squad
$865 million - Guardians of the Galaxy, Vol. 2
$875 million - Batman vs. Superman: Dawn of Justice
$880 million - Captain America: Civil War
$1.15 billion - Justice League

And, to be honest, I believe if I had made this game two years ago, before anything was known, I would have been ripped to shreds because the $1.15 billion for Justice League would have been deemed "too low".

This is why Doctor Strange NOT beating Suicide Squad is not seen as a failure, while Justice League not beating Doctor Strange is: it's all about expectations. This affects how future films will be financed, and what kind of repercussions will be felt in the board rooms of these studios.

Again, if you can be honest, if, two years ago, I had started a thread and proclaimed that, of the nine DCCU and MCU movies to be released in 2016 and 2017, that Justice League would be the POOREST performer and not the biggest winner, I would have been berated, insulted, and laughed off of the board.

And that is the sole reason why your point is invalid. IF Doctor Strange had been expected to be a billion-dollar movie and finished behind Suicide Squad, then your claim would be valid. But the fact that Doctor Strange actually exceeded its expectations and performed a bit better than expected, but still finished behind a film with massive expectations is not something you can knock. A HUGE film, one that people were bragging would be a $2-billion movie two years ago, that winds up LAST on the list of the DCCU and Marvel movies of the past two years, finishing behind Doctor Strange IS something you can knock!

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Just so it's easy to find for everyone, here is the actual order of those results from the past two years:

$655 million - Justice League
$680 million - Doctor Strange
$750 million - Suicide Squad
$825 million - Wonder Woman
$850 million - Thor: Ragnarok
$865 million - Guardians of the Galaxy, Vol. 2
$875 million - Batman vs. Superman: Dawn of Justice
$880 million - Spider-Man: Homecoming
$1.15 billion - Captain America: Civil War

Of the nine DCCU and MCU movies released in the past two years, only BvS cracks the top five, and not by a lot. Two years ago, if I had told you that a movie featuring the very first on-screen meeting of Batman, Superman, and Wonder Woman would be beaten out by teenage Spider-Man, I think I would have been lynched for that, as well. Or that a baby talking tree and squirrel would beat out Wonder Woman...

But, of all those results, the fact that Justice League is still at the VERY bottom of the list is absolutely shocking.

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a talking rakoon and a walking tree beat the Trinity.

Sounds like a joke. But it isn't.

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And don't forget that Transformers 4 made more than Thor 3.

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not that hard to either.

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its always hard

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Yeah, but with DCEU is always easy.

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true that

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Never!

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