Clay Shaw was found NOT GUILTY
it took the jury less than an hour.
shareShaw was obviously innocent. Same goes for David Ferrie. He was a creep, but any connection to the JFK assasination is just far-fetched.
Garrison was either a complete lunatic or a very smart man trying to deflect from legitimate questions surrounding the investigation by fueling conspiracies.
Garrison was the former.
shareNo, the latter. He challenged Earl Warren’s cover-up because he thought his would be better.
A bunch of latent homosexual fanatics, harboring fascist tendencies, in New Orleans. Yes! There’s the culprits. Sure.
And George de Mohrenschildt, Oswald’s CIA handler is mentioned, what, once in the whole 3-hr fiasco?!
It seemed to me, just an opinion, not saying I am right - but it seemed to me that Garrison, after doing some reading and a bit of research, convinced himself there was a conspiracy to kill JFK that involved his town, New Orleans. Because he was the DA if New Orleans, he was taken seriously. He received national attention. The problem is, as he dug further and further, interviewed more and more people, and investigated deeper and deeper - he found he had nothing. He had absolutely nothing to prove there was a conspiracy that killed JFK. So, to save face, he started making stuff up. This led to Clay Shaw being indicted. WHich as the OP said, he was found Not Guilty, in 54 minutes. The entire incident ended up being a joke. Garrison quickly slipped into irrelevancy. It was only Oliver Stone's film that brought him to public attention again.
sharelet's find a gay guy and charge him. clay wasn't even in dallas on that day
shareWhy was it necessary for Clay to be in Dallas? He hired an assassin to do the job so that he could take care of his alibi. I hope "He wasn't even in Dallas" was not the only argument of the jury.
sharegarrison said he was, and then he said he wasn't.
shareIronically, Garrison was closeted. Probably some self-loathing going on.
sharei think i know which one
shareYou come to quick decisions when someone's pointing a gun at your head.
shareI’ve been studying this case, and most of the associated conspiracy theories for 30 years ever since Oliver Stone’s JFK was first released on home video when I was a teenager. I, of course, was sold on the validity of government cover-up then, based primarily on Oswald’s movements, CIA connections, and Soviet “defection” which was clearly an espionage mission. His path to being the perfect patsy. Over the years I developed an interesting theory that casts doubt on Stone’s & Garrison’s transparency and integrity. I believe both are liars, and it’s not a coincidence that the real Jim Garrison plays Earl Warren in the motion picture. They are baiting us.
Without beating around the “bush” so to speak, I’ll just say it.
The film, JFK, is not actually looking for a solution… it’s there with the express purpose of redirecting suspicion to subversive characters instead of the establishment. The film was made in a certain way by virtue signaling about Kennedy’s greatness, ingratiating itself with the audience to assure us that, hey, WE just have questions, too, and we made this film to highlight every wacky theory under the sun. It only muddies the waters, though. It almost dares you to take a lone-nut Oswald position.
Make no mistake, the film actually portrays conspiracy-minded folk as loons who are in over their head and are not prepared for the consequences of asking dangerous questions. The film is scary… almost bordering on horror. How many people look at Jim Garrison as portrayed here by Kevin Costner, and feel a sense of hopelessness about actually looking down this rabbit hole? He even says in the film to Mr. X, “this is bigger than me… I can’t” to paraphrase. This is a decidedly anti-conspiratorial mindset being incepted on to the audience. They want us to forget about it… wait decades for some declassifications and so forth that never even bear fruit.
It’s part of the cover-up, and Stone is a propagandist who is absolutely NOT the liberal progressive muckraker he presents himself as. For all it’s vague talk about covert ops and the military industrial complex, with the current executive in the White House at the time of the film’s release, George HW Bush, being most emblematic of that whole culture, it completely ignores him, the president, even while he attains the pinnacle of establishment power. Bush, the former CIA agent, former Head of the CIA, a colleague of Watergate burglar Howard Hunt, sitting in the White House as Oliver Stone “directs”… yeah, right.
Bush was at the very heart of the Dallas, New Orleans, and Caribbean anti-Castro operations on his Zapata oil rig in the 1960s. Yet, the antagonists we are given to speculate on are a bunch of seedy low-level fanatics in the homosexual underworld?! Misdirection towards people who are already pariahs to the Bush “values voters” of the time. Don’t even get me started on the AIDS epidemic which also defined the Reagan/Bush years.
Coincidentally, Stone also later makes a movie in 2008 about George Walker Bush, also president, portraying him as affable and charming person who’s in over his head. Poor him! We all assumed it was a partisan hit piece calling into question his leadership potential. The movie was soft, though. Where was the character of Richard Clarke, former counterterrorism czar? Any real hit piece leading up to the Iraq War, would have definitely included the Clarke chapter.
We need to instead question the Bush family legacy of being portrayed as simpletons by those like Stone and Moore, since that’s the narrative The American People have been fraudulently given. This image was never challenged by them. Why?
It’s because, like a typical covert operative, they… both father and sons, actual want to be (to refer to Dubya’s own faulty vernacular) “misunderestimated.” Overlooked.
Coincidentally, stronger cases for assassination have been laid upon Lyndon Johnson or Richard Nixon and their administrations. Absurd! Bush is the family with authoritarian instincts, Nazi and Saudi sympathies, election tampering, war profiteering, not their predecessors. Vietnam was their Waterloo… but folks in the Bush circle made millions in armament deals. Bush was the Head of the Central Intelligence Agency with Texas roots. The same CIA who funded Bin Laden and the Mujahideen, later responsible for terrorist attacks on America as further precursors to war and oil contracts.
Stone is basically a Bush family propagandist, and he’s done more than anybody (aside from perhaps Michael Moore) to cast the Bushes as intellectually-challenged in the public’s mind. This is why we are not taking them seriously as players in this conspiracy. Lift the wool from your eyes, please. The Bushes have been playing chess while most Americans are counting up the checkers pieces.
King me!
See this instead: https://moviechat.org/tt3432330/Dark-Legacy