How did this get a PG rating?


This would never happen today. With all the sexual innuendo, babies smoking cigars, etc that are in it?

But even if it was 30 years ago, it still amazes me that it got away with the content.

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Completely disagree.

Any innuendos were mild and cartoon babies smoking cigars would still not give the film a 12 rating or above.

Question is, how did Watership Down get a U?

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How dare you disagree with me!

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He was talking about the MPAA though, not the BBFC. They have much different standards in the UK than the US. MPAA are much more strict on sexual innuendo and language than the BBFC. This would have definitely be light PG-13 today.

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Well..whatevet the case I do remember back then that it wasn'ta DISNEY type film..more a 1940s rivsal studios type...despite some WB/MGM/Universal-Walter Lantz shenanigans in Donald cartoons..

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You're probably right, but PG movies had more of an edge to them in the 80s, even with the advent of the PG-13 rating. The titular character dropped an f-bomb in the PG-rated Beetlejuice. In the PG Innerspace, there were quite a few s-bombs, Dennis Quaid's naked ass, and one of the villains being digested by stomach acid.

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It was different times. I must admit that some of the films that were rated PG in the 1980s, do seem to have quite a lot of adult stuff in them nowadays. Jaws and Ghostbusters were PG, but have been uprated to 12 by the BBFC.

I must admit, I do consider WFRR a very strong PG. Even as a kid(11 at the time) - I did think that it contained some quite strong stuff(the sexual innuendo for one thing - and I really did think that Maroon's death was quite strong - that imagery of him being strangled after being shot it in the back).

We have got to remember that it was before the 12 was released for Madame Sousatzka and Batman in the UK.

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Jaws would be an R today

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Jaws is still a PG in the UK, the bonus material features Schieder dropping an F-bomb, which brings the disc up to a 12.

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How about Planes Trains and Automobiles, in that film, Martin drops like 25 f bombs in 1 scene, and there is use of some other vulgar language sometimes throughout the films, and that film has a G rating

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in what country does that PT an A have a G rating?

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Well, i'm from the Netherlands, and on my IMDb page it says 'AL'
which is the Dutch equivalent of a G rating.


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Rated R in he USA...

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This film and Back to the Future make me miss the old MPPA. I agree that there is no way Roger Rabbit would be PG today, or Back to the Future for that matter.

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There was a LOT less PC bulls*** back then. I know, I remember. Cartoon characters would drink and smoke. Heck, in Beauty and the Beast Gaston clearly states he is drinking beer, you absolutely cannot do this nowadays.

People were more relaxed and less uptight about offending. It was not that we didn't think about others, it's just that we thought people - and kids, too - would be mature enough to take things that are different from what they expect and parents would do their jobs educating kids.

Now it's a bunch of idiot millenials who are too scared of the real world.


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1000% agree

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>>>There was a LOT less PC bulls*** back then.

Exactly. And it's gotten so bad that public schools are now even ordering parents who they have to invite to their kids' birthday party whether they want them there or not.

This is now the policy rule at most public schools:

"If you invite boys to the birthday party, you MUST invite EVERY boy in the class to the birthday party. If you invite girls to the birthday party, you MUST invite EVERY girl to the birthday party, but if you invite anyone while on school property, written or verbally ,then you MUST invite EVERY child both boys and girls to the party."

Did you get that???

They're ordering the parents that even if the invitations are mailed out entirely off school property, they must invite either ALL the boys in the glass, ALL the girls in the class, or both every girl and every boy if invitations are mailed to both sexes entirely off school property. Or even told verbally about it.

But if the kids or parents are on school property when they invite the kids, even verbally, they MUST invite EVERY kid in the class, not just boys and not just girls.

What fricking business is it of the public schools when BOTH the invitations and party ALL take place entirely off of school property off of school hours???

It's NONE of their FRICKING business.



And that's not the only thing either.



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Interesting. And entirely unenforceable. Despite what they may think, a school cannot require people to do or not do anything on their own property or on property they do not own. If the parent wants to use school property, they could enforce such a restriction, but no where else.

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Milennials or how ever it is spelt still like this.

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You do understand the MPAA is a bastion of the religious right, yes? There's even a clergyman on the board. Ratings are stricter now as a result of this. See This Film Is Not Yet Rated (2006) if you have questions.

And no one who can vote in the MPAA is under 30, so do a bit of research before you speak again.


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exactly- it's religious and uptight old people to blame for this particular part of "pc culture" not millennials.

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Yeah, people need to get over this PG crap. The world is way more over sesnitve nowadays. WFRR is not that bad for children, so it's really deserving of PG, but obviously it was probably be rated R if it came out today.

Seriously, there is no need to hide crap from kids, they are just little adults, 5 years later and they are already teen and that is pretty much an adult already. I always watched WFRR as a kid and love it. So what if is has some sexual references or curse words? Kids are gunna learn that stuff anyway eventually.

I really think PG-13 is a dumb thing. It's not something super magical happens to you when you turn 13. There should just be a G, PG, and an R. R would only be necessary if it literally shows sex and nudity and violence like people getting decapitated.

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So what if is has some sexual references or curse words? Kids are gunna learn that stuff anyway eventually.

Don't forget how Judge Doom practically murdered that shoe, and the creepy scene when he reveals that he also had murdered Eddy's brother! Nah, it is one thing to have sexual references. Maybe the adults might raise their eyebrows, but the kids will probably not even get it. But when you have such a nasty villain as Judge Doom on top of it, I will not show this movie to my niece until she's ten years old (and as she is three years old now, we still have seven years left go).

I really think PG-13 is a dumb thing. It's not something super magical happens to you when you turn 13. There should just be a G, PG, and an R. R would only be necessary if it literally shows sex and nudity and violence like people getting decapitated.

Over here in Sweden, we have four age limits for movies: BTL, 7 yo, 11 yo and 15 yo.

BTL is the rough equivalent of your G-rating (as in, most people find it appropriate even for small children).

7 yo is the rough equivalent of your PG-rating. (You have to seven years old to see it in the theater without an adult).

11 yo is the rough equivalent of your PG-13 rating. (You have to be eleven years old to see it in the theater wuthout an adult and seven years old to see it even with an adult).

15 yo is the rough equivalent of your R-rating. (Nobody who is under fifteen years old may see it in a theater, not even with an adult.)

And to get to the point, I have no problem with having four ratings. While different people will be offended by different things, they give us a guide line to what is appropriate for a child or not.

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I watched WFRR in Kindergarten, pretty much at 5 years old and I loved it. I don't think it is too bad, but of course this movie would be considered too bad by most parents nowadays to show their kids.

It's really not that bad. I was already talking about sex in 2nd grade. Not much changes from childhood to adulthood, but just learn a little more stuff.

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I watched WFRR in Kindergarten, pretty much at 5 years old and I loved it. I don't think it is too bad, but of course this movie would be considered too bad by most parents nowadays to show their kids.

It's really not that bad. I was already talking about sex in 2nd grade. Not much changes from childhood to adulthood, but just learn a little more stuff.

Like I said earlier: It's not all the references to sex, that would keep me from showing this movie to my three-year-old niece. Yes, there is plenty of it. But a three-year-old would not get any of it, so there would be no real harm done. It is the scary parts with Judge Doom, that is the deal breaker for me. It is of course possible that my little niece would be fine with seeing the shoe being murdered, or with Judge Doom's reveal towards the end. But I very much doubt it, as I know that she has been scared by some seemingly child-friendly stuff, that she probably was a bit too young to watch. So I won't take any risks, and I know that her parents don't want me to show her anything either, that would be likely to scare her. And that is also why I keep so many Disney movies for later, because there will be a scary scene or two even there...

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Yeah, people need to get over this PG crap. The world is way more over sesnitve nowadays. WFRR is not that bad for children, so it's really deserving of PG, but obviously it was probably be rated R if it came out today.


Doubtful. The movie probably would warrant a PG-13 today. The Dark Knight got away with some very troubling dark themes and some heavy violence with a PG-13 intact. There's not that much language or violence in this movie to warrant an R. The smoking and drinking might be issues but nothing again that would push this over.


I really think PG-13 is a dumb thing. It's not something super magical happens to you when you turn 13. There should just be a G, PG, and an R. R would only be necessary if it literally shows sex and nudity and violence like people getting decapitated.


Well nothing super magical happens when you turn 17-18 either but we still have the R rating that advises against 17 and under seeing the movie or NC-17 which prohibits under 18. Ratings are guidelines I don't know why people take them as gospel so much, at least here in the States where it's largely non-binding rules. (most other countries you have to be at the age of the rating)

I had no trouble seeing R films at 16-17 (When I was able to drive myself to the theater then anyway).

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>>>There should just be a G, PG, and an R.

That's pretty much exactly how it was when I was growing up.

Only G, PG, R, and X.

It was Steven Speiberg who got the pg-13 rating started in July 1984.






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I agree with those saying people were less PC back thing. This was Disney PG film.

When it airs on Disney nowadays, which is RARE, stuff is dubbed out.

Bong saying "Wise Ass" is badly dubbed over as "Wise Guy."
Eddie saying "Nice Booby Trap" gets changed to "Nice goin' Jess."
Baby Herman's line gets changed to "I got a 50 year old mind, and a 2 year old body."

But look at the Lion King and Hunchback of Notre Dame. Both films got a G rating. Mufasa is murdered by his brother, and the villain casually talking about killing his nephew. Then he's eaten alive by Hyenas. You also have him smack a female -the main character's mother. The he latter film has the villain lusting for the main female, and wanting her to die and burn in Hell if he can't have her.

Yes, things were less of a big deal in older days. Least when it comes to things like family / kid shows. Rocko's Modern Life aired on Nick, and children were free to watch it. And oh boy the stuff in it.

Heifer got a bj from a milking machine.
Rocko's car gets impounded, and prison raped, earning the nickname "Fancy Fenders"
In another episode, the car dies, and the words HIV can be seen in the background. Nod
The fast food place is called The Chokey Chicken.

Nowadays ALL of this stuff has been cut out, and even the DVD doesn't show the original stuff.

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If you're an adult with no children, you will maybe find it ridiculous that they changed those lines.
But you have to remember that parents with young kids don't want their children to learn such language.

It is pretty obvious that both "Lion King" and "Hunchback" would have to be PG-rated today.

"Rocko's Modern Life" seems to never have been made for kids in the first place.
So I don't believe that it was right to ever market it as such and broadcast it on Nickelodeon.

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I watched this movie a lot when I was VERY young when it came out and found the Judge Doom stuff fairly scary but not too bad. However I do remember revisiting it when I was older (around 12) and being quite shocked at the violence in it. I was like "was this film always this... adult?" The scene where RK Maroon is murdered in particular is VERY harsh for a PG movie aimed at families (I know, I know that WFRR wasn't INTENDED as a kids film but let's face it the film was always going to be marketed that way).

As an adult I do miss the days when PG actually meant something and WFRR is one of the best examples you'll find.

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This movie would definitely be PG-13 today, but I think this movie would be more toned down if it came out today. They probably would cut things out to warrant the PG rating. I doubt Disney would let movie that feature cartoon characters like Mickey Mouse and Donald Duck to be PG-13.

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