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They cheated us out of a proper film score!


If you go out and spend 99 cents on the Madonna 45 of Live To Tell, then you've got the soundtrack of At Close Range, more or less.

The score is eerily fitting in most parts of this, and is especially effective in the great opening scene, but union laws should have blocked this kind of copout on hiring a real film composer to do the score for a film.

The song Live To Tell was written for another artist and another film, rejected, recycled for use by Madonna in At Close Range, then recycled and stretched out into an entire hour of music for this film.

From before the opening frame of this film, a stretched out variant of Live To Tell is already being played. They play the synthesizer chords of the song much more slowly, milking it for all it's worth, again and again and again and over again, then after the synthesizer started smoking due to overuse, they started playing the same god damned thing on a guitar, then they played the whole pop song version as well.

This movie both begins and ends on this one song, and at least 90% of the score in between is variants of the same song, just jamming on the theme of the song, they play the chords that go along with "...I know where beauty lives..." again and again and again.

I liked this song a lot in 1986, but it hasn't held up over time, and severely dates a film that would have been timeless otherwise. The drum machine and DX7 (an overused Yamaha synthesizer that was used more than all other synthesizers combined between 1983 and 1987) made the song almost unplayable after the 80s were over. It just wears the viewer down with 80s-ness and makes the film sound dated. Coming from me, this is really saying something, as I am in the synthesizer business (and the DX7 was my main synth in the 80s!).

The credits for this film are screwy. It doesn't credit someone as the composer consistently and in the normal way:

Here on IMDB, it doesn't credit anyone as the film composer! The Patrick Leonard page just says "At Close Range (1986) (writer: "LIVE TO TELL")"., but the full cast and crew page for At Close Range doesn't list a composer, and doesn't even mention Patrick Leonard!

On the Wiki page, it just says "Music by Patrick Leonard (and) Madonna".

In the onscreen credits of the movie itself, it just says "Music by Patrick Leonard".

Anyway, it is a copout and the viewers got cheated out of a real film score for this fine film.

The end of the movie is really crap, stopping on a freeze frame and starting up the drum machine with this pop song that you'd already been hearing for the last two hours, making the end shot like CHiPs or any 80s TV movie.


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LOL... I pretty much agree with your entire post.

I am watching this movie right now, I keep saying to myself "for the love of god will they play a different song?!?".

It's like they spent $400 for the rights to use this song and by god they're gonna get every penny's worth! I am sure there were starving artists in the 80's, they couldn't find one to play three DIFFERENT notes on a synth for a box of Top Ramen or something?!

I'm thinking the classic Walken cowbell SNL skit should have been him on the set of At Close Range saying "I need more 'Live to Tell', I gotta have more 'Live to Tell'!!!".

Oh gee look a dramatic slow scene of them sneaking onto a farm... heres those three notes from Live to Tell played really slowly this time on a real piano... now she patches Sean's face up and they're swimming in a lake.. Live to Tell on accoustic guitar!!!!!!

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frankthespank, you're awesome!

You must have really known the L.A. musical life in the 80s:

Did you buy your Top Ramen at rock n' roll Ralphs?!?!

Personally, I preferred to buy mine from The Giant (also owned by Ralphs) down by Western, because it was even cheaper!!!

Yes, you are right, it was hilarious when they switched the song over to acoustic guitar!

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I never saw anyone famous there. I think I saw Sammy Hagar at the Gower Gulch Thrify around 1987, but that's it. The only people of interest that I saw at rock n' roll Ralphs were slutty metal chicks. Remember slutty chicks? Ah, good times...

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In those days, if one of those chicks was your girlfriend, no matter how serious or committed you were, it was an unwritten rule that they were going to do it with anyone in any (signed) metal band if the opportunity presented itself.

That created a bizarre male culture of its own. In the early 90s, a guy bragged to me that his girlfriend did it with Skid Row (I think the whole band).

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You make some valid points but I guess some of these things are a bit subjective. I personally love the score & don't get tired of it b/c it's very emotional, ultimtately I understand your point of view.

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I too really enjoyed the score.

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Agree with the OP.

Being very familiar with the song myself, I was large distracted by the synthesizer sound and the stretch of the tune throughout the whole movie.

In addition to that, the ending credits with gigantic Madonna really shocked me. Who in Pete's name accredit to the composer and the singer before the entire cast credits appear?

As much as a Madonna fan myself, I sincerely hoped she had nothing to do with this movie at all. I could only imagine the fiasco brought by the poison Penns at the peak of their marriage and madness back in the 80's.



I don't intend to be offensive, but I have to defend my opinions.

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You don't have a *beep* clue, At Close Range is one of the best film scores, ever.

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mail man
you obv have 'inside baseball' here - respect

but as a know nothing outsider who digs (or least dug) penn
and loves walken still
this movie was quite bad as in badass

and the song the only one by madonna i could ever listen to
was / is still good i mean really good imho

tho your 80s synth drum machine point is undisputable - ha

hey it's only rock&roll right ?
peace


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Well the song was written for another film, but rejected. Madonna had just married Sean Penn in 1985 and used the song for At Close Range. I think it fits the film perfectly and it's a favorite track of mine too.

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I'm no Madonna fan but the use throughout the film of Live To Tell was perfect imo.

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I love this score too. I has able to find the Main Title on a Hemdale Great Movie Scores CD.. It's the real deal.. There is another track called "Murder" and it is great too. It covers the scene in which Christopher Walken's men drown a police informant. It is very different than the Live To Tell song. There are some bootlegs out there which is nothing more than the first few minutes of the film when Sean Penn is driving into town. The sound is pretty good but you can hear cars passing by and footsteps. Hope this score will get a proper release. I love the music after Sean Penn is shot and he turns the water hose on himself to wash away all the blood. Brilliant!

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It's worth pointing out that the film's composer, Patrick Leonard, also co-wrote "Live to Tell" with Madonna (he was also her producer). The opening music to that song features prominently in the score (from the opening notes of the picture and throughout). I just watched the film for the first time and it felt odd that it was all throughout the score but then I've been hearing Live to Tell for nearly 30 years and I'm very familiar with the tune. If my first experience with the music had been watching this film then it would have made perfect sense and be rather neat to then hear it at the start the song during the end credits. I agree with an earlier poster about how strange and how much hubris Madonna and Penn had to have to have the song credit be the lead for the end credits. Good movie and good, moody score.

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All you guys complaining about the score have got realize something: When this movie came out it was 1986 not 2011 or 2015. The score didn't bother, or distract me at all.

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To me it sounds like a song that came out five years after the movie, 'Save the best for last," sung by Vanessa Williams. Bugs the hell out of me.

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No. It was concurrent with the film, the video featuring clips from the film with video of Madonna singing the song "Live to Tell" is on YouTube and is quite well done.

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I agree with you that became clear throughout the film, especially at the end, but the earlier melodies sound like the Vanessa Williams song. Neither really suits the subject matter, in my view.

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It is one of the greatest songs of all time though.

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Not a big Madonna fan, but I agree, this is a great song.

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true.

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I feel the same way. She hit it there.

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