How does Jerry get in to the club? - Fright Night (1985) Discussion

They can't enter your home without first being invited in

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[–] TM1617-2 (601) a month ago

Thank you, mechajutaro. Other stories, including Buffy The Vampire Slayer, extend the inability to any indoor place that vampires don't own. I have assumed that the rule applies to all types of facilities. The issue regarding a private residence is that you are guarding where you live from monsters, but most kinds can barge into your house. That makes me think that vampires being barred from homes until invited has more to do with them than with a person's beliefs. In that case, it would make the most sense for the restriction to follow vampires wherever they go. I'm not sure which version is correct, though.

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[–] mechajutaro (2788) a month ago

Given that vampires are fictional creatures, rules such as these are highly fickle

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[–] TM1617-2 (601) a month ago

It's actually easier to give set rules to creatures when they are fictional, but there are always going to be arguments among writers. This isn't the first instance of a disparity that I have seen along the line of vampires. In some movies, a cross must also be a crucifix to repel the people of the night, but in this one, that is not required.

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[–] Syb (18) a month ago

I always assumed that public places, including venues such as clubs, were exempt from that invitation rule. Thinking back to ye olde days, I imagine a vampire wouldn't require an invitation to the town square (public) or local tavern but would for pretty much anywhere else.

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[–] TM1617-2 (601) a month ago

Thank you, Syb. That might be the suggestion in this film, but it doesn't make sense. I don't see why it matters if the place is private or public. The point is that an establishment is still an indoor facility, unlike a town square.

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[–] DoctorThirteen (10318) a month ago

The rules change from film to film. It's easiest just to accept the rules for each movie in isolation.

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[–] TM1617-2 (601) a month ago

Thank you, DoctorThirteen. That is not true for me. Rules should be consistent. Those are part of the appeal.

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[–] DoctorThirteen (10318) a month ago

But who decides them? Vampires aren't real, so anybody can impose whatever rules they like.

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[–] TM1617-2 (601) 18 days ago

Whoever has created vampires has made the rules about the nocturnal specie. Fictional creatures need laws so that we know how to present them. They would not serve their entertaining purpose if their lives were constantly morphed because then we would be unable to recognize who or what they were.

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[–] DoctorThirteen (10318) 17 days ago

So many authors down through the years have added to, subtracted from, and amended vampire lore. Even Stoker. There's no single accepted 'supreme' source.

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[–] StinkyPoopyPants (2708) 24 days ago

A public place is basically an open invitation. A private household is not. Meaning, a home is a place where you would not leave your doors open or unlocked to let whoever wants to come in, in. Public places do not have these restrictions.

I'm not very good at explaining things but if you think about it you will know what I mean 😊

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[–] Zarkoff (648) 24 days ago

That's my interpretation as well. Any member of the public can enter, so in effect there's an open invitation.

If a sign in front of the door said no vampires allowed, he might have had a problem.

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[–] StinkyPoopyPants (2708) 24 days ago

Thank you! Exactly what I meant 😊

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[–] TM1617-2 (601) 18 days ago

Thank you, Zarkoff. Your joke makes me ponder something. If there were such a sign, then it would be a playful assertion, so would Jerry have to take it seriously? He would know that the staff don't believe that vampires are real which might invalidate the warning.

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[–] TM1617-2 (601) 18 days ago

Thank you. That is another way to view the matter. However, I think that it would be more fitting for the rule to apply to all indoor places, and in some stories about vampires, that is the case.

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[–] Ranb (7247) 11 days ago

Perhaps he asked the bouncer, may I come in?

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[–] TM1617-2 (601) 10 days ago

Thank you, Ranb. That is a decent thought, but asking permission for entry is not the same as being invited inside, so I don't believe that it would work for a vampire.

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[–] Ranb (7247) 10 days ago

Jerry: Flashes ID.
Bouncer: Come on in sir.

Works for me. :)

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[–] TM1617-2 (601) 7 days ago

Okay, maybe that could count as an invitation, but Jerry appears as a man in his forties despite being centuries old, so his shoving an identification card in to the face of the doorman would be suspicious. Perhaps the vampire would not be let in after that. Nonetheless, your scenario creates for me a funny image of Jerry wanting to throw his suaveness and smugness about in every way and proving to the world that he belongs anywhere the instant that he wishes to be there.

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