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"This movie is Braveheart in space, except the ragtag underdogs are the bad guys."

posted 3 years ago by JackalopeCash57 (92)
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I recently heard the movie being described as this^.
Needless to say, it blew my mind lol.
Thoughts?

[–] wearsalan (5554) 3 years ago

Well the rag tag army were the bad guys in Braveheart too

[–] JackalopeCash57 (92) 3 years ago

Do you mean the Scottish lords who Longshanks bribed to bail on Wallace?

[–] wearsalan (5554) 3 years ago

Yes

[–] TMC-4 (19442) 3 years ago

I've always heard that The Wrath of Khan was supposed to be like Moby Dick. What I mean is that Khan like Captain Ahab turns down numerous opptunities to get rich (in Khan's case, the Genesis Device) because they want revenge against the entity (James T. Kirk/the whale the crippled Ahab) that they feel hurt them.

[–] Daf (105) 3 months ago

To be specific, Star Trek II: The Wrath of Khan is "Moby Dick Vs. A Tale of Two Cities... in Space!"

[–] bozo_500 (12267) 3 months ago

Well its on the same level as Braveheart in terms of it being a classic movie

[–] CountJohn (579) 3 months ago

"Underdog as bad guy" is always an interesting dynamic, which you don't see very often in the movies (as opposed to real life where it's probably true more often than not in reality)

[–] Martoto (4254) 17 days ago

Braveheart sucks. So, no.