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Seriously...why is this movie so campy and silly?


There was probably HUGE hype about the return of Sean Connery for this film.
Why did they go over the top to make it so ridiculously stupid?

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I can't explain all of it but the original story, circa 1956, has Wint and Kidd as homosexual, with all the attitudes of that era thrown in. If you add the theatrics of Las Vegas, it probably fills a few extra bits in.

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This movie in no way resembles the Ian Fleming novel of the same name. Like You Only Live Twice, it was a complete departure from the novel. Diamonds are Forever was the first of the ridiculous Bond movies, with several of the Roger Moore Bond films following suit.

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The DAF novel was one of Fleming's weakest. The movie, while being a satire, actually improved upon the original in many ways. It's not like Moonraker, for example, where the producers took one of Bond's best stories and ruined it.

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I didn't mind the DAF novel, the movie however I rank as the very worst. There are a few funny lines but for the most part there is nothing memorable about it, even Connery seemed bored out of his mind.

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Some of Moore's Bond pictures aren't silly and some are.

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Because Bond`s writers finally got their own joke - and ran with it. To places fun and fine.



"facts are stupid things" - Ronald Reagan

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Times had changed radically from the mid sixties. The idea of having a serious Bond film in the early 70's would have seen the film makers wheeled off to the lunatic asylum. Even in the 60's the Bond films were cool but still considered very silly and childish.

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They had to do it in a rush because they didn't want to do the film originally planned to come after "On Her Majesty's Secret Service" ("For Your Eyes Only") - which was a direct sequel - without Lazenby, who got a but too full of himself and got canned.

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Direct sequel to OHMSS is YOLT and they had already filmed that. FYEO published 1960 OHMSS published 1963.

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In fairness, the stories were already getting increasingly silly w/ YOLT (the one where Sean Connery "plays Japanese").

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The plot of YOLT was certainly sillier than that of DAF.

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You mean the Bond film where the Japanese Secret Service thinks that changing the shape of Connery's eyes is a good cover for him to hide out as a Japanese fisherman in a small village full of gossipy Japanese housewives, or that his being over six feet tall and speaking with a strange non-local dialect will arouse no suspicion at all? And let's have a HUGE wedding ceremony in said village full of chatty, gossipy peasant women and no one will notice anything at all. In the real world every granny in every village in Japan within a 50 mile radius would have heard about this strange "Japanese" guy no one has ever seen or heard from and his big wedding. Yeah, he'll be totally safe with that cover... even though the Japanese Secret Service compound is shown to be overrun by Spectre spies, one of which has infiltrated the building. That Bond film?

LOL, good stuff.

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I think it is worth mentioning that the 60's Bond movies -- despite being made in the "Hays Code" era of censorship and before the R rating came in 1968 -- were considered very "hot stuff" indeed. With Connery's Bond, sex and violence in the movies took a quantum leap(even though NO Bond movie ever had R-rated content)

Key: up until that time, most American romantic movies led to the same place: marriage. And often, babies(or pregnancy -- the key way of showing that man and wife "had sex." For procreation.)

Connery's Bond would bed two to three women per movie. He would end up with "the one" at the end of the movie(often floating in a boat or raft with them, hmmm.) But came the NEXT movie, "the one" was gone, and he was on to two or three more conquests...and then "the one" at the end of that movie. (Yes, a non-Connery Bond eventually got married, but she got killed right after the ceremony and...back to tomcatting for James.)

So the Bond fantasy exploded the requirement that love and sex end in marriage and babies.

Over on the "violence" side, Connery's Bond was sold in ads as "the man with a license to kill!" And kill he did. Often brutally, sometimes with sadistic pleasure(if the victim was really BAD), but with a LICENSE to do so. Famously, in Dr. No, after a man tried to kill him by firing gunshots into a pillow where Bond was NOT, Connery's Bond pointed a gun at the now unarmed man, said "You've had your six..." and executed him.

The combination of a man who could have sex with multiple women without marriage or children required; and could kill people(men OR women, though women rarely) at will(as long as they were "bad") made James Bond an exotic commodity in the 1960's. And somehow Sean Connery was just right for those movies...a big brawny man with a certain sadistic edge to his smile. He enjoyed killing men(like Robert Shaw at the end of that mano y mano in From Russia With Love.) as much as he liked having sex with women, it seemed.


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Weirdly, the sex and violence of the Bond movies seemed to get overridden by the "silly action plots" of the series. I think one of the producers said that the movies were starting to be produced as much for kids as adults(presaging Star Wars and Comic Hero movies.)

And the spy craze AS a craze died out very rapidly in the late 60's. All the American spy TV shows died fast(The Man From UNCLE, I Spy, The Wild Wild West) as did The Avengers in Britain. You Only Live Twice made less than Thunderball and On Her Majestry's Secret Service(without Connery) made less than YOLT.

As the 70's began, the James Bond series was just sort of holding on, for nostalgia's sake. And thus, the producer pulled out the stops to hire Connery one more time. They tried again -- Live and Let Die -- but even Connery had had enough(though he should have never said never again.)

Once Roger Moore took over, the brawny sexual sadist Connery was replaced with a cutie-pie wisecracker who never looked more out-of-his-depth than when trying to look ruthless. And the 70's Roger Moore pictures were really burlesques of OTHER 70's movies -- Shaft(Live and Let Die), Enter the Dragon(The Man With the Golden Gun), Jaws(The Spy Who Loved Me -- with a villain NAMED Jaws), and Moonraker(Star Wars.)

It has been said that Sean Connery in Diamonds are Forever was in "the first Roger Moore Bond) and the film does rather copy another hit -- "Bullitt"(1968) with its car chase. Still, anyway you cut it, the times they were a changing, and what Bond was in the 60's would never be duplicated. Now in the 21st Century, Bond is neutered and PC and anguished about killing -- which isn't so much as it should be, as much as it has to be.

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There was probably HUGE hype about the return of Sean Connery for this film.
Why did they go over the top to make it so ridiculously stupid?

I kind of wish I knew, but I'm sort of glad that I don't know.

I think maybe the producers felt they had taken the series as far as they could, and were going to shut it down, and maybe therefore let the filming process fall apart or go unsupervised ... I don't know.

I do know that I really don't like it, and I can't think of anyone in their right mind or with good taste heaping praises on this stinker.

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They wanted to go in a new direction, as the serious "On Her Majesty's Secret Service", while a hit, grossed about HALF of what the Connery films before it made

The producers thought that audiences of 1971 didn't want serious

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Because they tried to make a relatively serious Bond movie in 1969 and it didn't sell as well as two movies before it, which were campy.

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I see people comparing Diamonds to the last Connery film. But Diamonds is goofier on another level.

But like others said as well they were really disappointed with Oh Her Majesty's Secret Service. Which really sucks since OHMSS is my favorite film of all time.

But you can't argue with results. DAF made almost twice the amount of money than OHMSS in The US. It's probably why they headed in this direction when Moore became Bond.

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It was the early 70's an Cold War spy stuff was out. It's clear that during the 70's, the Bond producers were going with pop culture trends. Camp was big in the late 60's/early 70's.

The went with blaxploitation in Live and Let Die, Kung Fu in The Man With the Golden Gun, and Star Wars with Moonraker. It was toned down in The Spy Who Loved Me, but they still couldn't resist throwing in a shark and having a character called Jaws.

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I don't mind it being campy and silly. Most of the Bond movies are absurd and ridiculous, even most of the Craig ones. I personally like that element in a Bond movie.

The two big problems for me aren't the tone but Tiffany Case just becoming dumb in the second half for no reason, and worse, the action's just bland, which is unforgivable in a Bond movie.

The elevator fight is a good idea and starts off well but then it goes on a bit too long, and the car chase around Vegas is fine but that's basically it.

Most of the action's just dull, including the climax. There was nothing to separate the action from the kind you'd expect in an Austin Powers movie.

I'm sure the Moon buggy chase and the Bambi and Thumper scenes sounded good before they were filmed on screen, but on screen they're pretty lazy and lame.

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