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THE RAPE SCENE OF THE WIFE LOOKS SO FAKE!!!!

posted 7 years ago by captainamerica-24763
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The fakest looking rape scene I ever saw! 1. Alex picks her up and carries her into the house and she never struggles or screams! 2. She just stands there and never struggles or tries to scream while Alex undresses her. 3. From my point of view, being a fifth degree blackbelt, those hoodlums would be child's play to knock out! That writer must have been the weakest guy on the planet! In any real rape scene the woman would have fought the guy at the door and struggles like crazy.I always wondered what a sexy knockout like her would want with this silly, stuffy old guy anyways. I mean this woman kind of gives the impression of being like a gold digger or a trophy wife! Adrienne Corri died recently (she was in her eighties). She was mainly known for this film, though she also had some interesting parts in two Hammer films-Madhouse and Vampire Circus. In both films she plays creepy weirdo kind of women. A Clockwork orange wasn't the only time she showed off her body, she showed off her figure in quite a few other films as well (Viking Queen for one). I think she knew she had a great body.

[–] superspygoestowar 7 years ago

she wasn't that young in the rape scene either---around 40. She was in Dr Zhivago over 5 years earlier and she looked well in her 30s in that film.

In the 1971 film, I think Kubrick deiberately strived for a dream-like result in the potentially violent scenes, he avoided making it look like a 'documentary' or realistic in any real way , and portrayed the most repellent events in a very stylized way, presumably to get past the censor of the day.

[–] user-169-360487 7 years ago

I think it was intentional. The entire movie is done is a very playful manner. So was the case in the first rape scene and the sped-up sex scene, the background music was all veyr gleeful and cheerful, on contrary with what's going on on the actual scenes. The first rape scene happened on stage and it looks like an actress dancing with stagehands, the sex scenes are also done in a very funny manner. Juding by how the characters speak, I'd say the rape scenes are intentionally done in this way. This is one of the reasons a lot of people are not disturbed by the rape scenes but turned on because it just look so much like S&M.

[–] gaff-45701 7 years ago

I agree. The writers wife looks like a trophy wife. She's young and has a knockout body and he's old and looks like he can't do the business anymore. It reminds me of the apes in 2001. When the boss of the apes gets old, the most aggressive and determined of the younger apes will beat him up, cast him out and take over his females. When Alex says “Viddy Well” to the old writer, he's not just taunting him, he's showing the old writer that the younger malchicks have arrived to give the old in-out to his wife, the Alpha males grabbing the trophy wife and doing what they want to her.

[–] fleischwolf (294) 6 years ago

So maybe, because she wasn't a 5th degree black belt, but a meek 70s housewife? What did you expect? That she'd dropkick Alex and the droogs? Charlies Angels this ain't.

[–] Darren (1134) 4 months ago

I have been a cop for 23 years, and a detective for 15, most of that time in our department's special victim unit. There is no single course of action that "any" woman facing a gang rape would take. Some would fight back and some wouldn't. Some would freeze in shock and despair. Some would even make the rational calculation that they can't fight this off, and will likely only be hurt worse if they try, so they go completely passive, withdraw inside their minds and try to retreat mentally, in a way they can't do physically. Everybody is different, and people in violent situations that they are completely unprepared for don't always react in ways that seem rational to the Monday morning quarterbacks.

[–] Ace_Spade (9361) 4 months ago

I was thinking the same thing. I'm guessing your experience probably makes you smirk a bit at the OP's claim "...being a fifth degree blackbelt [sic], those hoodlums would be child's play to knock out!" I'm guessing that's a big, "Maybe," too.

[–] Darren (1134) 4 months ago

Yeah, nobody who is tough, and knows how to fight at all is going to be "child's play" to knock out. Professional boxers struggle for 12 rounds (used to be 15, when I was growing up), and don't always manage to do it. Plus, the gang were all armed -- Alex with his cane and its hidden knife, Dim with his chain, and I forget what Georgie and Pete had, but they had something. Plus there were four of them -- even Bruce Lee said "more than one, get a gun," because he was realistic about self-defense, and knew there was a difference between the real world, and what he showed on screen. After he got famous, he was known to carry a .357 magnum in case he had to deal with multiple opponents, or someone coming after him with a weapon.

So yeah, I find that comment by the OP to be some pretty silly macho chest beating.

[–] Ace_Spade (9361) 4 months ago

Plus, they're all on milk with "knives in" or whatever they had. They're flying on amphetamines or worse. You could probably crack them with cricket bats and they wouldn't notice.

[–] chilidoggg (13087) 4 months ago

Bruce Lee said "more than one, get a gun,"

That's a great line!

[–] pazuzu9 (299) 3 months ago

When asked about realism, Kubrick would say something along the lines, 'realism is good but interesting is better'.

[Making movies] you're not trying to capture reality, you're trying to capture a photograph of reality - Stanley Kubrick

[–] TheMan18 (12520) 14 days ago

It looks more IMPLIED than "fake", and besides, though GOD FORBID, I will never be THAT up close and well known personally in this matter in order to judge and conclude if on film it ever LOOKS "real", if you get my meaning, then again, neither would I want to with murder either, though first matter in more ways especially so. And for understandable modern and otherwise socially sensitive and highly emotional reasons to boot.