Halloween Night?



Did children actually set street fires, throw flour in peoples' faces, and tell them that
they "hate them" in 1903???

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Most likely so. First off, the kids are having a bonfire, very popular then. As for the flour in the face stuff, the script was based upon Sally Benson's childhood in St. Louis, so it's very possible this was based on real events.

As for Agnes and Tootie throwing the stuffed lady onto the train tracks, that was most likely from the scriptwriters. Either way, that was a terrible thing they did, and both girls should've been punished, especially Tootie, who concocted that whole lie about John Truett.

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Thanks for the response, but I don't remember them throwing a stuffed lady onto the train track. When did that occur?

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It happens off camera. Just after Rose returns with ice cream, they all hear Tootie screaming. They carry her in, still in her Halloween costume. She has a cut lip and tells her mother, Rose and Esther that John Truett hit her. Later, Agnes rushes home and excitedly informs Tootie that police were at the trolley site, as the motorman believed the that the stuffed dress was a lady. It's an odd scene, and odder still that Anna doesn't really punish the girls.

In the next scene, the father returns home to announce they are moving to New York.

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Hmmm. Don't remember that scene.

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No offense, but were you sort of multi-tasking while watching the film? Or has it just been decades since you watched it? I only ask because, frankly, the scenes described are impossible to "miss" if one is seated, viewing the film, start to finish.

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No I was not, but it's been at least six months since I've seen it. I guess those scenes didn't make that much
of an impression on me.

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Actually, the Halloween scene was probably one of the more period-authentic things in the film. The costumes with those dreadful paper-mache masks are authentic enough...

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And so was the mayhem. Kids went out trick-or-treating unsupervised back then, and the "trick" part of trick-or-treating could involve destruction of property or worse, as it's all a remnant of a Celtic holiday where food was sacrificed to pay off spirits who would otherwise cause disaster and destruction. The "tricks" have gotten milder as the centuries passed (animal sacrifice went long before the 1900s), and pretty much died out during the 20th century. When I was a kid TP-ing and egging were still common, but then parents started going out with their kids and victims of "tricks" started calling the police, and of course the helicopter parents killed off the tricks completely.

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Interesting.

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My dad grew up in the 1930s and I remember him telling me they would fill socks with flour and beat them at the front doors of people who didnโ€™t give them treats. I guess it left the door covered in flour. I think he said they used rotten eggs too but Iโ€™m not sure. He told me this way back in the 70s when I was a kid. He lived in the greater New York area while growing up.

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Interesting, thanks.

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Actually tipping over outhouses was a big thing for years. My uncle once roped and pulled over an outhouse with a guy still in it!

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That's cold.

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