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Is this Science Fiction?


I am working on a list of my all time favorite science fiction movies. Do you think "King Kong" qualifies as sci fi? Thanks.

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Definitely, yes !

After all "Science Fiction" meaning Science-based Imagination,
is included in "Science Speculation",along with "Science Anticipation"
which means possible and probable scientific development.

"King Kong" would belong to the latter category, specifically "Cryptozoology"
viewed by "Mainstream Science"(a sacred cow unto itself despite its indeniable academic credits)
in the same light as UFOs and Parapsychology.

The problem with "Orthodox Scientists" is not with their scientific competence,
it lies with their frame of mind which is anutting but scientific, becoz it refuses
to consider data that do not kowtow to its pet-theory-invested egos.

The existence of a giant ape like King Kong is not at all impossible, along
with other giant survivors of ancient times in remote parts of the world.

After all "orthodox scientists" would have us believe that we descend from
apes with "proofs" like "Piltdown Man" !

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Thank you for your well thought out and thorough response. I would be happy to here other opinions on this question if anyone else cares to chime in.

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Science Fiction, I'd say yes. Plus Kong is unique in so much as far as I can tell he is the only Giant Creature in movies that was not created by atomic radiation.



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Well, we also have 'The Lost World' (1925 and 1960), 'Journey To The Centre Of The Earth' (1959), 'The Land That Time Forgot' (1975 and 'At The Earth's Core' (1976).
'The Mighty Peking Man' (1977) was a Konglike creature. And then there is 'Moby Dick' (1956).

Spielberg's jurassic dinosaursare also not created by atomic radiation, but they are created by man, just like 'Tarantula!' (1955).



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In film literature of different Fantastic Films and alike, King Kong is often mentioned or reviewed. Because the film is so complex and multi layered, I consider it simply BOTH a horrorfilm (Its meant to scare oss!), a fantasy (The whole set up, a sea journey to the unknown on the quest of a sacred something), and Science Fiction, because you have an island inhabited by prehistoric beasts that dwell in a prehistoric jungle. The Sci Fi aspect comes from rather early sci fi, when it was still on the boarder to fantasy. Sir Conan Doyle (author of Sherlock Holmes) wrote The Lost World in 1912 about a plateu in the Amazon where "time had stood still". That scenario has been copied very many times and of course was part of the Kong story. As dinosaurs are scientifically proven to have existed, that scenario make it not "impossible to happen", as we have found animals alive which we thought were extinct since hundreds of millions of years ago.

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Also "The Valley of Gwangi", about cowboys capturing a Tyrannosaur in the old west.

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"The Deadly Mantis" ~ The creature is a gigantic prehistoric insect that was frozen in ice. As the film begins, a volcano near Antarctic erupts, causing an ice flow in the Arctic to break away, which releases the creature. Opening Narration: "For every action, there is an equal and opposite reaction."

"Beginning of the End" ~ Are the grasshoppers the result of chemical experimentation? I don't seem to recall radiation referred to except for leading man Peter Graves' objection: "You can't drop an atom bomb on Chicago!" (Being an Illinoisan, I LOVE this movie=})

"The Black Scorpion" ~ Volcanic activity releases the creatures. When the men enter the place the scorpions emerge from, they encounter other huge insects.

"Mysterious Island" (Ray Harryhausen's version and probably most others) ~ Radiation isn't involved here either. Isn't it Nemo's experimentation? (I haven't seen any of the films for a long time.)

"Mighty Joe Young" ~ He just grew up very big. I'm not sure if he gets to be in the gigantic league. Also in the ape genre: "Konga" is enlarged through chemistry.

"The Valley of Gwangi", "The Beast of Hollow Mountain", "Dinosaurus!", "Gorgo", "The Land Unknown", "The Last Dinosaur", "Carnosaur" series, and many other dino movies (JP trilogy already mentioned) ~ None of these are created or revived by radiation.

"The Giant Claw" ~ It's made of antimatter and is extraterrestrial~or so I seem to recall. What a terrifying rubber chicken, striking~ummm~hilarity, not horror, I guess=} *snicker*snort*

"20 Million Miles to Earth" ~ The Ymir becomes gigantic in Earth's atmosphere, unlike on its home planet of Venus.

"The Monster That Challenged the World" ~ An earthquake in the Salton Sea unleashes this prehistoric menace. (It's one of my all-time favorites and seems to be getting more attention. Yea!)

"First Men in the Moon" ~ Since this is not Earthbound, perhaps the "mooncalf" doesn't count. It's shown as a denizen of caverns beneath the surface of the moon.

"Rodan" ~ Earthquakes activate the giant creatures in this one, both the Rodans and the creepy Meganurons.

Mothra (various films) ~ As far as I recall, Mothra is a creature of nature, not "giganticized" by radiation.

"8 Legged Freaks" (to name something more up-to-date) ~ chemical waste

"The Host" ~ chemical waste (a new trend?)

"Cloverfield" ~ just gigantic all on its own I guess

Can you tell I'm rather freaky about creature features?! I was born with the Fifties and grew up with them.

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Conquest of the Pole --- The ice giant. They don't explain him, he just exists.

Attack of the Fifty Foot Woman --- The Aliens did something to her, I'm not sure what.

Food of the Gods --- Giant rats created by eating some sort of ooze.

Empire of the Ants --- Don't remember.

Tremors --- Graboids. Presumably ancient creatures. They existed in the Old West at least.

Shark Attack III: Megalodon --- Prehistoric fish.

Reign of Fire --- Ancient dragons awoken.

Jack the Giant Slayer --- Mythical giants from another land.

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I wouldn't say it's sci-fi, I think it is more of a fantasy movie to be honest.

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Giant moths, giant ants, giant lizards, giant monkeys and the giant problems that follow. It's mostly speculation from the atomic age, which is what most science fiction consists of. Extrapolation. King Kong was the best, perhaps because it was the first. (Lizards standing in for dinosaurs in the early 10,000 BC movie don't count.) But we never know what caused Mr. Kong to grow up to a super-sized ape. Too much protein in his diet? He predates atomic testing. Then there's "Mighty Joe Young." A nice guy who is maligned by most people because of his overbearing personality. Let's hear it for Joe! He gets my vote for "ape of the year."

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No, I don't think so.

King Kong [1933] is a lot of things: Drama, Action, Adventure, Romance, Horror, et al. But I don't think Sci-Fi is one of them. That's, heh, quite a stretch, really.

OTOH, 1968's Planet of the Apes, based on the novel by Pierre Boulle, is certainly Sci-Fi. That's a great film! hehehehe

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This one of the things that makes certain films great. They touch on many genres. KK is fantasy, Sci-fi, horror, "love story", adventure, sociological and of course, one of a kind. One who didn't live then, can only imagine what it was like to see this in a dark theater and big screen in 1933 when talkies were only 6 years old.

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It's an epic movie.

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Not a sci fi film. Its in the genre of "when nature attacks" movies, sort of like Jaws. Now if King Kong acquired the power of speech like what we saw in Planet of the Apes, then of course it would be a sci fi movie

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What about when Kong built that giant laser gun? That's pretty sciency.

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What laser gun?

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The one that he made to disintegrate the robot Kong that he built earlier to fight off the alien invasion, but it became sentient and went on a killing spree.

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That sounds like King Kong Escapes but thats more in the spy thriller genre

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fantasy. none of the elements of SF

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