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Can you separate his sexuality from the rest of him?


It's something we have to do with gays, just say 'oh you're a guy who has sex with other guys, I'll compartmentalise that and say 'that's your sexuality'.

Are you able to do that with sex offenders?

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It would depend on the celebrity I guess. Cosby made an image on being the wholesome family man he was even called "America's father" so his sex crimes look worse than perhaps someone who has a more brazen or not so wholesome image?

Same goes for anyone who presents themselves as holier than thou in some way. I think it also counts that this wasn't just one incident with Cosby, he was doing it repeatedly for decades.

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Intothenight, I am actually praying that you are NOT serious in comparing gay people with rapists and predators.

If so, I feel seriously sorry for you and anyone of your kind.

Gay people, idiot, are people who have sex with and/or fall in love with people of their own genders.

Yes, Kevin Spacy is gay, and was a predator, but Cosby - who is straight - is something worse altogether: a RAPIST.
Rapists represent ALL sexual identities, INCLUDING (and usually) straight men, who attack young girls and women.

There are millions of loving, healthy straight AND gay men and women who do NOT fall into the above category.

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Yes but if you are straight and the idea of having sex with a man repulses you, in today's society, you're not allowed to be like "you disgust me, you put another man's penis in your mouth, what is wrong with you?' We are taught to compartmentalise things and put our personal reactions to these things to a side and say 'that's his sexuality'.

Equally so, we are disgusted by a man who drugged women and had raped them. But can we say 'I don't feel comfortable with that, that's his issue, I want to enjoy his comedy and TV shows."

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Your argument is nonsense. Do you also have to "compartmentalise" women? They have sex with men, which you find disgusting. What about any other actions a person performs that disgusts you? The idea of another person using a toilet is pretty disgusting, but I don't need to compartmentalize actors and ignore the fact that they do it in order to appreciate their work. If you personally have some kind of issue with gay actors, that's on you. Randomly comparing being gay to being a sex offender makes zero sense.

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I do feel weird seeing some gay actors or singers and know what they get up to. I try not to let my mind go there.

And sometimes I think women are gross.

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Intothenight, I am actually praying that you are NOT serious in comparing gay people with rapists and predators. [...] Yes, Kevin Spacy is gay, and was a predator, but Cosby - who is straight - is something worse altogether: a RAPIST.

As a reminder: it has never been proven he was a predator, much less a rapist. There has been zero evidence beyond the accusations themselves. The character assassination been thoroughly repeated by mainstream media, probably because of political reasons, but a repeated accusation doesn't become truth (even though some people think it does).

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WHICH ONE of these repulsive men are you defending??? You bring up both Spacy and Cosby, but you don't crystalize
your point. Anyway, I really don't care. While both men are GUILTY, Cosby IS a rapist.

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Which is the evidence that proves that Cosby is a rapist?

Very simple word: evidence.

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If ONE woman was angry at him, and accused him of date raping her, I'd say I wasn't convinced. But we
know that isn't the case. Too many women, too many situations of drugging them and then raping them.
He was CONVICTED.

You obviously need assistance in accepting this. Why not try a hobby, like golf, or basket weaving?

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A large number of testimonies is not considered as serious evidence* unless the testimonies have no information about each other. That's why witnesses are kept separated and aren't allowed to talk to each other until they have testified.

IF there had been a large number of accusations against Cosby BEFORE the case went public, then that would be credible. But there was a couple of accusations, then the case went public in the media, and then the rest of them following the same pattern.

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*I'm talking here about fair trials, which is not always the case.

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That's a dicey comparison you're making there.

Firstly, you don't "have to" do anything with gays, no one is forcing you to be tolerant. But to answer your question, gay people are not engaging in criminal activity, so there's nothing to overlook and I personally don't spend much time thinking about what other people, gay or straight, do in bed. That's just weird.

Sex offenders are dealt with by the courts and once they are convicted and incarcerated, my opinion of them isn't really relevant is it? As long as they get what they deserve.

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Intothenight's "comparison" is ludicrous.

I recall years ago, a close, straight female friend of mine, who knew I was gay, said, "No offense, but when I think of
you having sex with a man, I get grossed out." Without pausing, I replied, "I feel the exact same way when I think
of YOU having sex."

Good grief.

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It's easy. Just watch the performance. Hollywood is filled with shitty people who do awful things. I just watched scream, which was produced by Harvey Weinstein. The guy is a pig who used his influence to mistreat women. Regardless, Scream is a good movie.
I like the Usual Suspects. Kevin Spacey is a creep, but it's a good movie. Rosemary's Baby is a classic, even if the director drugged and sodomized a teenager.
Hollywood is filled with the drecks of society. Fortunately, they can be replaced when their actions are revealed.

As for the gay comment, i don't think about it. Just like I don't think about my parents having sex. It's not my business nor should anyone need to troubled themselves with it unless the person could be hurting themselves.

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No.

But doing so isn't a decision I made, it's an emotional reaction. Sometimes somebody does something awful and from then on I can never look at them with anything but revulsion, and that's how I feel about Cosby and Woody Allen and some others.

I'm fine with listening to Wagner operas, though. No feeling of revulsion there, just music.


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