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This surprised me...


Carpenter has been known to be highly critical of the film industry. In a 1978 interview with The Hollywood Reporter, Carpenter openly spoke negatively of films by Steven Spielberg, George Lucas, Francis Ford Coppola, and Robert Altman, calling Altman "not a good filmmaker" and "slightly masturbatory", and Spielberg a "pretentious" filmmaker and a "studio shill more concerned with making money than making good movies." Carpenter has stated that horror films in recent years have mostly bored him, but has singled out praise towards It Follows, Let The Right One In, and the work of Jordan Peele.

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Video source, John Carpenter on the set of Halloween 1978 talking about his contemporaries;
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hi9-4aguPzk

He likes American Graffiti and Jaws... doesn't care for Close Encounters of the Third Kind. Doesn't care for Altman's work at all.

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I almost completely agree with him, though 'pretentious' is never a word I would use to describe Spielberg.

I think CEot3K is a bit of a mess, but that 1970s science fiction vibe is so strong in that movie I forgive its flaws.

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I have followed Carpenter since the 80s. It helps to understand his views about filmmaking and also his personality. Back then anyways. Carpenter now is a little different. VERY cynical but at the same time seems to want to work again a little for whatever reason. Carpenter in his years 70s to 2000 ish timeframe was brutally honest about other filmmakers including himself. I agree with him as well but I dont like pretentious filmmakers either. He doesnt believe plots need to be intentionally complicated and that can be seen in his films. Hes not far off about directors being mastabatory either too often. I would give Nolan as an example for both of qualities in most of the films he has made. As I said though Carpenter is his own biggest critic so hes not being vindictive just honest. He complementary of Kubrick's films and those can be very complicated but for good reason. John is a smart cookie and a throwback that was really a director in the wrong era. He would have fit in better with the directors of the 40s and 50s as well as the studios.

And yes Close Encounters is a mess of a film but I also look past its flaws as I do with MANY films including Carpenter's. The saddest part about Close Encounters is that role was made with Steve McQueen in mind and we never got to see him play it. What a send off that would have been for him. Bummer.

Its no secret I am a big fan of Carpenter as a filmaker/storyteller as well as enjoying his films. His approach to his work has always fascinated me because he did so much by himself with so little funding so Ive seen and read a lot of his interviews. He often doesnt spoonfeed and sometimes intentionally misleads when it comes to his films because he wants people to figure them out on their own. That was the case with They Live and he still wont admit it. Same can be said for his adaption of Halloween 3. Fairly brilliant guy in terms of research/writing while remaining very working class in attitude.

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'The saddest part about Close Encounters is that role was made with Steve McQueen in mind and we never got to see him play it.'

That's interesting. I didn't know that.

Carpenter is easily my favourite horror director, and certainly makes my all-time top three film directors ever.

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Im not 100% sure where I learned that. It was either in a film commentary or a documentary about McQueen. He turned down a LOT of big roles. Steve got to the point where he didnt want to act anymore. I think I remember them having to basically beg him to do "The Getaway" which is basically my favorite film from both McQueen and Peckinpah. I cant really support it with a reason why other than I just like it the most for whatever reason and I basically like all McQueen's films. Basically a film about a troubled relationship in an impossible situation more than anything else but for whatever reason it works. Who knew Peckinpah could make that concept work so well? It still has on of my top 5 endings of all time when McQueen and Ali Macgraw drive of into Mexico in an old beat up truck after giving the driver a stack of cash. That entire scene is magic on film.

Close encounters was his role though. I want to say he turned down the role of Chief Brody in Jaws as well. Spielberg liked McQueen quite a bit. Dreyfus is great in Close Encounters but McQueen would have been golden.

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Very interesting. Thanks!

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Yet he took the exec producer credit money for the latest awful Halloween retread.

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Interesting. I can completely see why It Follows would appeal to Carpenter.

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Yeah it’s basically 90 minutes of Carpenter worship, with the camera framing, synth score, and ambiguous open ending. I love that movie. It immediately made me think of Carpenter

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Same can be said for a LOT of modern horror films. Its pretty amazing how much he has impacted cinema and continues to do so. You can see it in bigger films like "Dredd"... but also smaller films like "I Trapped the Devil". Carpenter will be remembered for a long time to come. Synth Wave is an entire Genre of music that basically comes from his scores. There were some others before him and during but Carpenters scores seem to be the most impactful and mimicked.

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'Its pretty amazing how much he has impacted cinema and continues to do so.'

A huge influence, absolutely no doubt.

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Yeah not bad for director who was basically never given any real support (outside The Thing of course) and basically had films that always bombed at the theatre. I even think Memoirs of an Invisible Man is a good film. Carpenter absolutely hates it. I think hes crazy. People point to Village of the Damned as his weakest film sometimes other than Ghosts of Mars but I challenge people to go watch the original Village of the Damned. I think Carpenter improved on it with his version.

People always make the mistake of forgetting hes a low budget filmmaker. They also forget the pace at which he made films from the mid 70s to the late 80s. Basically one film a year and most became classics and are still beloved and mimicked today. Its a shame we never got to see his remake of Creature From the Black Lagoon because the script was very interesting. From what I can recall he created an entirely new mythos to the gill man.

I like that he inspired so many because I like Carpenters preference to keep things mood oriented. It Follows, I trapped The Devil, Starry Eyes, Dredd, Planet Terror, Doomsday... all fun to watch. Carpenter could also nail any genre. Starman is a Love Story basically.. Nailed it. Comedy.. Big Trouble in Little China Nailed it. Biographical.. Elvis nailed it. Horror, Action, Adventure... Carpenters range was amazing. Then theres the music.. sheesh. Some of the best scores from the 70s and 80s are Carpenter. I didnt just spend so much effort learning about him just because I liked his films. I was also impressed how he could do so much with so little to work with at the pace he did. Some of his films are very in depth in the research and writing department while seeming very basic and even silly to the casual onlooker.

Maverick filmmaker. I think Howard Hawkes would be proud. I have said it for years I dont think we will ever get another John Carpenter. I dont know of anyone before him that could match his skillset either.

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'Then theres the music.. sheesh. Some of the best scores from the 70s and 80s are Carpenter.'

I've got a couple of his Lost Themes CDs. Really great stuff, some of it written especially for the albums and some of it originally conceived for movies but never finally used.

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Absolutely.

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His opinion doesn't mean much anymore if he thinks Jordan Peele is a good filmmaker.

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Too wacist?

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Too shit.

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I don't really understand the racial stuff in Peele's movies, but I think he's a competent director.

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He's like every other hack filmmaker around today ie take older films and plagiarize their tone, look and style and pass it off as your own "unique vision".

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It's possible. I've only seen Get Out and Us. Which older films did those plagiarize?

(And yes, Get Out is, essentially, a Twilight Zone episode, I get that)

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I've read and watched a lot of interviews with Carpenter and he has very particular taste, even today.

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