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Still no real impeachment inquiry. No fair due process, cross examination, defense evidence, or transparency.


Democrats are pushing a railroad job. An impeachment inquiry is an act of the House that requires a full House vote as was taken in the Johnson, Nixon, and Clinton eras. They've frozen Republican committee members out of the key decision making processes and the lack of a House vote means no stable due process rules allowing fundamental fairness. Current "rules" are in flux and at the mercy of Democratic committee heads' whims.

Democrats' opposition to transparency is especially indefensible. They're trying to oust a duly elected president and much of their effort has been behind close doors where they can cherry-pick what info they leak and spin the truth away to their hearts' content. They've rejected Republicans' call for open hearings. The American people have a right to see every aspect of this process.

What's happening now, trying to oust a president by secret testimony and secret witnesses, really is Third World coup level stuff.

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There will never be an impeachment process. There’s zero evidence to impeach just like the fake Russia collusion hoax.

This is the communist Democrat party using tax payer dollars to fund political campaigns. They’ve wasted hundreds of millions of tax payer dollars since Trump was elected.

Look at what they’ve accomplished for the American people since taking over congress. Zero. No ideas. No solutions. No platform.

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CORRECTION:

Since they CONFISCATED MORE MONEY and PROPERTY from MANAFORT than it cost for the MUELLER REPORT, we MADE A PROFIT off of that INVESTIGATION (it cost about 24 MILLION and we got about $40 MILLION from MANAFORT). That's about a $16 MILLION PROFIT.

AND ...

IMPEACHMENT is a POLITICAL PROCESS.

DUE PROCESS is something used in a LEGAL PROCEEDING.

IMPEACHMENT isn't a LEGAL PROCEEDING.

Note the way the SCAM MAN hasn't been placed UNDER ARREST. NO handcuffs, no STRIP SEARCHES, NO FINGER PRINTS have been taken. No RIGHTS were read to him about his RIGHT to REMAIN SILENT.

And PREVIOUSLY The GOP also FROZE PROCEEDINGS and kept the DEMOCRATS from being able to VOTE for a SUPREME COURT JUSTICE (just like they've also got 250 BILLS now they'd like to PASS that MOSCOW MITCH REFUSES to let them VOTE ON).

And THE SCAM MAN was also APPOINTED to OFFICE by the ELECTORAL COLLEGE and was NOT ELECTED, due to the way 3 MILLION more people VOTED for his OPPONENT than they did for him.

And since they would also EXPOSE the name of the WHISTLE BLOWER if they knew it, that's also the reason why they can't be TRUSTED to KNOW about certain matters.

But when it comes time for the TRIAL and the VOTE to REMOVE the SCAM MAN from office, the TESTIMONY will also NO LONGER be a SECRET anymore. Because they'll also be given copies of the TRANSCRIPTS of it before they VOTE.

Thus the reason why the HISSY FITS they keep having HAVE NO MERIT.



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Republicans pretending that this process is somehow different and unconstitutional compared to previous impeachment inquiries.

Their minds truly are warped.

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Do you think bold text will inspire people to read your drivel?

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It inspired you childishone. So the answer is yes.

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It inspired me to not read it so yeah. Well done.

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IMPEACHMENT is a POLITICAL PROCESS.

In this case it's a rabidly partisan political process with zero credibility, a naked power grab. Due process is especially important in these situations so the American people have confidence there's something more than dumb partisan shenanigans at play.

I'm actually arguing with someone who seems to be typing in a straight jacket, possibly with a nose or his toes. Oh well, it wouldn't be the first time here or on IMDb.

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"An impeachment inquiry is an act of the House that requires a full House vote"

Wrong. I explained this to you months ago but apparently facts have a way of flying over your head. There is nothing in the Constitution that requires a full House vote to authorize an impeachment inquiry. The House is a co-equal branch of government and makes their own rules on how they choose to conduct their business.

Its the same thing that happens with oversight powers. You don't need to pass legislation prior to issuing a subpoena based on the "oversight" function derived from Article 1 Section 1 (ie.the power to legislate). Each year, the House passes its own rules, one aspect of which is the delegation of oversight subpoena power to the standing committees. (technically, each committee is given areas of oversight, and empowered to issue subpoenas to fulfill their oversight function.)

The same is true for impeachment powers. The House can choose to delegate impeachment powers to standing committees of who they so choose. There is nothing that binds the House to requiring a full vote before beginning an inquiry. The inquiry phase is like the discovery process in court, the period when subpoenas are issued and evidence is gathered. They don't need to proceed to hearings until discovery is complete.

"They've frozen Republican committee members out of the key decision making processes and the lack of a House vote means no stable due process rules allowing fundamental fairness. Current "rules" are in flux and at the mercy of Democratic committee heads' whims."

Seriously cry me a fucking river when this is exactly what Republicans do when they are in power and control the standing committees in the House.

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It's the Republican reality distortion field. It is strong in krl.

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It’s that T-rump Impeachment Derangement Syndrome. They all suffer from it.

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Poor krl97a. She must love it when you very publicly wipe the floor with her. Why else would she keep posting such unimaginable bullshit?

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You're still upset because I called you a "bitch" on the other thread when I owned you for the 1,000 consecutive time, aren't you?

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No, not at all. Why in the world would I be upset over anything you post about me? You certainly have an over-inflated sense of ego if you truly think you're that important (psst - you're not).

Back to reality - you must love when eyeDEF wipes the floor with you, then you struggle to get back up. Why else do you continue to let this happen to you?

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Clearly that's not true, since you follow me around with an angry chip on your shoulder hysterically spending multiple posts a thread to backslap anyone who happens to be debating me at the time, no matter how badly they're getting stomped. The faceplanting clown eyedef is an especially poor horse to put your money on.

You probably don't realize how pathetic and desperate that behavior makes you look.

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I rest my case. You have a severe case of self importance with an over inflated ego.

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I certainly keep a large home in your head.

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I’m sure you believe you do.

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Based on extensive evidence.

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I’m sure you’re convinced of that. Your over-inflated sense of self importance wouldn’t see it any other way.

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The evidence keeps mounting, lol.

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Pathetic straw man, you partisan buffoon. The Constitution doesn't even mention an impeachment "inquiry" nor did I say it did. The majority party could just ram through impeachment in one day in a naked power play. You completely missed the point, as usual.

A "House" act, which is how this has been erroneously described, requires a House vote. That's why Pelosi, for example, can't just announce that Trump has been impeached and send it to the Senate without taking a vote any more than she can unilaterally pass laws. Pelosi is not the House. Committee oversight activities aren't House acts, empowered though they may be, nor does this impeachment farce have anything to do with oversight of federal policy. It's a political witch hunt targeting a person, his private associates, and even his family members. In fact with the way Democrat leaders are freezing Republicans out and acting without discussion this is even more partisan than normal committee business when it should be less so.

The reason all the previous impeachment efforts have gone out of their way to have full House votes on an inquiry and establish stable due process rules that provide fundamental fairness to the other side is because in the past both parties were smart enough to realize that so big a deal as potentially removing an elected president has to be seen as more than a brute force power play for the health of the republic. The American people having confidence in the process requires transparency, and that need dwarfs any secrecy concerns here (bogus or real ones). This isn't like discovery either, since that's an equitable process overseen by a neutral judge, not the case here.

Pelosi is junking centuries of precedent and avoiding a real inquiry vote because she and the Democratic leadership are craven and dishonest.

Their antics have robbed this process of any credibility.

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