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Really Queen? Nopers, critics got it WRONG! Universal and Warner Brothers ROCK, stupid Disney is STUPID! Learn to cope, you wannabe loser trainwreck!! KISS MY ASS!!!!!!!!!!
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So hey Dark, want to hear something weird? I just watched, "Bright" on Netflix, right? And wanted to pull it up here to see what people thought of it. I also saw The Last Jedi just last night and hadn't had a chance to further dwell in it's negativity, so pulled that up in a different tab to read about it after. So I skimmed the few comments there were about Bright...people seemed to like it, I thought it was pretty good for Netflix movie. K, so clicked over to the Last Jedi tab, pulled up your link and...its to the movie "Bright". What...is that on my end somehow? Seems almost too coincidental. Reading about Bright, come to read about The Last Jedi and am reading about Bright again. What?
Anyway, figured I'd point that out in case it was a mistake on your part.
Er on topic, I didn't care much at all for the movie either. Luke fricking Skywalker has been a cultural icon for what, 40 years now? And he just deserved better, IMO. Anyway....just my two cents.
You're a WHORE, Queen, a filthy froth-chomping WHORE!
My feeling is that they kind of rushed the bonding between the two families, in just trying to get all the information into a 2-hour movie that they needed to get in there.
Seems like this is a trope in movies, that you're supposed to just suspend disbelief and understand that towards the end, if the protagonist is feeling all sorts of remorse like this, then there must have been a lot more bonding that went on that the viewer just wasn't privy to.
The bonding scenes seem tougher to do in these kinds of movies. When you're trying to portray a man and woman bonding, you can just go for a montage, like in every romantic comedy ever, Deadpool etc, but harder to do it with a couple families bonding.
Huh, In 5-6 posts I've opened to read on this movie, you're the second person to have said they'd shut it off after 30 minutes. I had other stuff to do while I was watching it so stuck with it, but yeah, the first half hour or so was pretty slow and unimpressive.
Not too much after that is when I consciously thanked myself for not having turned to something else, it really does get better.
It was dramatized, sure, but I also thought it was a pretty realistic portrayal of how undercover life would look like. Especially what seems to have been left relatively unexplored in films of this genre, the guilt these guys felt for betraying people that they couldn't help but get to know and grow close to. That's more of an aside, I guess, but aside from feeling like the time spent watching it was well spent, that was what I personally took away from this film. That good and bad isn't so black and white, and 'bad guys' in this genre generally seem represented as caricatures of evil, bad for the sake of being bad, rather than ordinary, flawed people who are capable of the full spectrum of behaviors you could expect from most others.
Well dang, wish I'd been here for the conversation but am going to post anyway, damnit. The way I saw the scene, I was thinking that it made sense in the way that Cranston had to nip that conversation in the bud and do it as quickly and effectively as possible, extreme situations, extreme measures and all.
Think about it, even one more insistence from the waiter would indicate that he really believed what he was saying...and THAT'S what would ultimately make the scenario of it being a casual mistake exponentially more implausible. That dude needed to shut up and shut up NOW. Any further insistence, or god forbid, shoring up his argument with additional info, ie, "Remember you mentioned it being your ten year anniversary?" and the cat would be out of the bag.
The fact that the waiter had a mouth part that he could wiggle around and make noises with already made this an extremely volatile predicament, and Walter went a little bit overboard in making sure it was shut down.
That's how I justified it when I saw it anyway, although I see the veracity of the other comments too. Seemed like he could have stopped before smashing dude's face into the cake, but maybe he panicked?
Either way, it was way uncomfortable to watch, wasn't it? Grabbed my roller at that point and started rolling a cigarette lol
Good response, pretty much summed up what I was thinking when reading the OP.
I was wondering that too, thanks for taking the time to reply!
Kind of not really fair to the movie, turning it off after a half hour and then warning people to trust you, don't waste their time. Because I'm with you to an extent...the first 20-30 minutes WAS a little bit boring, and I wondered if I wasn't watching a dud myself. But smash cut to an hour into the film and I was glued to the TV, invested in the characters and after looking it up on IMDB, glad I had another good hour to enjoy myself with it. It was a good movie, and like Clickbait said, maybe not a masterpiece, but absolutely well worth investing the time to check it out.
A kind of aside? I'm a little envious, in a way. I don't think I could ever turn off a movie before making it through the first act and then be so confident in an opinion that I couldn't be certain was well founded, to then go on to assure people that, trust me, I totally know what I'm talking about here. Except your admission of having only watched 30 minutes suggests that you don't...yet you're so confident that you do! That's great, I wish I had those kind of balls lol
You guys need to figure out which it is...was the bombing itself a setup where innocent people got hurt, as the OP suggests, or was it a planned deal, complete with actors and fake blood? Because both camps have just tons of "evidence" to support their claims, that the brainwashed masses need to look at, no srsly guys, you gotta look at it!
Of course, there's a lot of evidence of a flat earth, because a whole lot of people will tell you that, who are all just as thoroughly convinced as those who know for an absolute fact that high-end government officials were regularly molesting children in the basement of an east coast pizzeria. Its totally true guys, you gotta get woke! Did you even LOOK at the evidence?
Here's my theory, you're a bunch of idiots grasping for identity, a purpose, for meaning and value in a life you otherwise may feel is worthless, and its about you, only you and the delusion that these critical thinking binges of yours exist in anything other than a completely subjective, self serving vacuum.
We all have to believe in something, and often those beliefs end up hurting humanity as a whole, but you guys hone in on individuals who've already suffered through the most heinous of shit and then unleash a torrent of abuse so relentless that some have had to go into hiding, fearful that one of you a-holes is going to follow through on a death threat or something.
There's probably some brilliant minds out there who...may have a few questions, their interest has been piqued. And that's great...but its a far cry from people who watch a little youtube, think they've got it all figured out and go straight into parroting some random dude's conjecture at the next hapless bastard who broaches the subject.
"I don't mind hearing others opinions, but what I don't like is someone who is gleeful that a movie I liked is doing so poorly at the box office."
Just...this lol
IMDB forums, you'd always see those posts from people who were just goddamn giddy about a movie failing. Something about that kind of shittiness is just so off-putting that...its almost like the person is representing the dark side of humanity or something. A bunch of people worked very hard on something, only to have some jerkoff who's likely accomplished little more than finally cleaning the acne spurts off his bathroom mirror, is just soooo damn happy about it. The whole enjoying others' misery thing, or something. Its gross, and those types of people are of the devil IMO.
Sorry. Just...yeah.
"Beyond that, though, the Jennifer Lawrence character is rather one note...which is boring to watch for 2 hours..." YES! We basically just follow her around for two hours, watching her fret, which...thank God its her and not a lesser actress, but dang, after about an hour, I found myself exhausted. It was like Vietnam...a whole bunch of nothing THEN OMG SOMETHING, then back to poking around, hey what's with this bloody hole in the floor? Have you ever seen such a thing?
Where could it have come from? Let's come back to it a few times, using a variety of shots each ti- HOLY CRAP WE'RE ALL IN HELL but then again, there's a hole over here in the floor to be carefully examined, so we should probably look at that.
I didn't get the movie beyond it being an allegory. So its an allegory, so what? Does that make it an amazing film? That was two hours of building to the most exhausting last act...there's only so much empathy to give, right? She's our surrogate, Lawrence...she represents the audience, right? The camera following her around, seeing everything from her viewpoint etc. well did anyone else feel like they'd have killed themselves far sooner than she did?
It was too insane, too intense and kept building and building, and by the time the merciful end of this film came, I was 20 minutes past caring about anything other than it finally being over. And then it was...and after two hours of feeling miserably bored, miserable for the Jennifer character, then just miserable, there was no resolution, no satisfying...anything to make up for all the time we spent being uncomfortably invested in her character.
"Oh but it was an allegory and you have to understand that you're one of those who's ripping the house apart". DANCES WITH WOLVES, is what I'd say to you. There's a movie that so successful exhibits such a start contrast at the end, between the disgusting white man and noble Indian, that the much needed perspective made you feel good to feel like crap!
Who knows, hindsight is always 20/20 and all that, but equating a house, housewife and poet with mother nature, God etc...its not the easiest connection.
Another poster just said something like, "Why didn't you like it? This movie made perfect sense." But just because an allegory matches up somewhat, even perfectly for that matter, doesn't exactly make it a good story, IMO. This movie was hard to watch, brutal...aggravating even. I'm all for an allegorical tale that says something, I guess, but this seemed more about, "Hey I'm actually an allegory!". An allegory for its own sake...it seemed hollow, even after having put the pieces together and trying to infer something.
Sure I could be missing something and probably am, but man...this was a rough two hours lol
Yeah she's classically beautiful, isn't she? If that makes sense. She kind of seems like...if you had to choose one woman to represent all females, she'd be the cookie cutter lol
Wow, how condescendingly shitty. He didn't like it, likely didn't feel like getting into a debate about the merits of allegories or whatever deep subject it would end up getting bogged down in, and I don't blame him after your, "this movie made perfect sense". You sound like a narcissistic ass.
She's just...painfully beautiful, isn't she?
Yes because depicting a historical event where a few blacks were murdered in cold blood by some crooked cops is the same as saying all white people are villains.
Grow up, there's no way you believe your own BS.
LOl whatever hyperbolic generalizations got you so angsty, you respond with your own hyperbolic generalizations, except this time, they're just racist as hell and angry. You think anyone reading your drivel would ever consider you objective enough to have ever made so much as a cursory search for any kind of truth outside of your own? Jesus, maybe it feels good to spew that kind of venom, but IMO as a reader, it just reflects back on you.
And Pank has a point, you DO know that America was built off the back of slaves, right? British colonialism, French...yeah, plenty of countries have flourished due to slavery. Hundreds of years of suffering by millions of subjugated people, its real, it happened, and too bad if mentioning it pisses you off.
I'd ask, "what would you do", if you were in that situation of being subjugated as these guys were, harassed by police simply for having the nerve to have had their ancestors ripped from their homeland, but the fact is, you can't possibly know because you haven't experienced it. IMO THAT'S white privilege. To not know.
Well said Moviegeek, very well said! I've waited to see that very comment ever since the backlash to the BLM movement started! Too bad this is over a year old, really wanted to give ya kudos.
Nuh uh!
I can see your point, but I don't think they were acting like machines as much as they were using the only real tools they had at their disposal back then, ie fingerprints and handwriting. All the evidence they had against Leigh was circumstantial...I mean, it was very convincing, but it was still circumstantial...and they needed more than that to arrest and bring charges against the guy.
Yeah just got done watching the movie for the first time, came here to say just that...that was too realistic, really horrible to see. I don't recall any other murder scenes from movies having that kind of affect. just so...real, I guess. No fancy camera work, music, slick editing...anything, just watching someone who could only scream as they were being stabbed to death.
Jesus criminy that was brutal.
There was that scene in Saving Private Ryan though, when the guy runs out of ammo, wrestles with the German soldier until he's pinned underneath, with the knife being pushed into his chest? The solder telling him to "Shhhh" as it slid into his heart...man couldn't get that out of my head for days. That scene and this one, probably the most traumatizing scenes I've seen in cinema to date.
Great movie though...surprised I've missed seeing it for so many years, really well done.