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You asked why people liked this show. I took you at your word that you were sincerely asking the question so I gave you an honest answer. That was my mistake. I see now that you just want to complain. You've proven my initial thoughts true; that you just started a thread to let everyone know that you didn't like it. Duly noted.
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several, "So I'm not the only one" moments for me.
Later it grew and changed. It did clever things like tying seemingly disparate story lines together. The best example being "The Marine Biologist." There did become a time when I felt maybe they had begun to rely on the tying story lines together thing too much.
But the show continued to grow and try new and different things. Which I always appreciated. It took TV sitcom tropes and turned them on their head. Or it would deconstruct the TV sitcom. It was pretty experimental as far as sitcoms go. And if Larry and Jerry had their way, it could've been more so. They wanted to do a single cam show without an audience or laugh track. It would've been more close to what we saw on Curb Your Enthusiasm.
I don't wanna make these posts too long, but those are just some of the reasons that I liked the show and found it funny.
My sensibilities weren't offended nor were they delicate. I just didn't understand why someone would start a thread only to say, "Hey, I didn't like it."
If you really want to know what people like about it or find funny about it, then just ask. But your OP didn't do that. It just said you didn't like it, didn't think it was funny, and thought the characters were annoying and whiny. I understand that it's a discussion board, but the way you worded the OP shuts down discussion instead of opening it up. I've seen on boards for other TV shows or movies when someone posts something like that it just leads to mudslinging because the replies that come back are of the "You have no taste" and the "You're too stupid to understand it" variety.
I see that in another post you listed shows that you find funny. Several of the ones you listed, I like. Some I've never seen. Some I've given a chance and just didn't care for. All that to say, your taste has a wide range of style and time. So by that, I'm going to deduce you're old enough to have watched Seinfeld during it's original run. So that takes part of my explanation out of the equation because I notice viewers who weren't around for its original run or who weren't old enough to watch it then tend to think it's derivative and cliche in that it relies too much on tropes, when, actually, Seinfeld was the first show to do a lot of the things that today we find cliche. And we find it cliche because so many shows have copied tone and structure etc. from Seinfeld.
I didn't start watching Seinfeld from its debut but I did start watching fairly early on, before it became a hit. I thought that more people should be watching it because it was fresh. I had heard some of Jerry's stand up before and enjoyed it. But the show noticed small things about life and societal norms that I didn't realize anyone else had noticed or questioned but me. It felt like the show's humor was speaking directly to me. In the early years it had 1/2
Well, I seem to be talking to myself here. I keep checking back in hopes that others will come on here to discuss season 11.
Yeah, I believe Larry said that season 8 of Curb was as close as you were gonna get to a reunion. And that's okay with me. I thought that was funny and that's as much as I need to see for a reunion.
All these other shows doing reunions look foolish for the most part. Seinfeld is better than them. And by not succumbing to the reunion pressure like these other shows, it will always remain better than them.
I tell you what I don't get. Why do people feel the need to log onto a board just to tell everyone that they don't like a certain show? There's plenty of shows that I don't like, but I don't go on their discussion boards just to let everyone know that ChalupaBatman doesn't like it.
What compels you people to give us this unsolicited information?
If you're truly asking, "Hey, what makes this so great? What am I missing? I want to understand." Then that's one thing. Ask the question honestly and you'll likely get thoughtful or insightful answers. Otherwise, you're just going down the list of message boards and starting threads saying, "Just wanted to let everyone know, I don't like this show."
Him being the a "super hero" type was bad enough. But when they turned him into a moron in the final few seasons was even worse.
Wesley is the Jerry Gergich of TNG.
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I don't really know how to explain why without spoiling it for someone who hasn't watched it yet.
Class dismissed
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Topanga, it's sexual in nature. The guys in the hall at school that hit on her obviously have one thing in mind. Going dancing with those guys from the restaurant is very sexual. Dance is sexual. You see it in nature all the time when an animal will dance to attract a mate. When humans dance, you're close to the other person, you're moving in a sexual manner, girls shake their butts and boobs, you're hot and sweaty and breathing heavy. Sounds like sex, doesn't it?
Topanga didn't see the difference in why girls like Cory as opposed to why guys liked her. She didn't think Cory should be bothered by guys liking her but didn't allow Cory the same latitude. She was completely unfair to him.
Yeah, she was unfair to Cory.
I've been watching reruns recently and the episode where her and Angela were waitresses and would go out dancing with those two waiters after work is a perfect example. She kept telling him that those guys were just friends and he had nothing to be jealous about. She was one of the smartest students but was somehow to stupid to see or understand why he would have a problem with her dancing with other guys. For some reason she made it Cory's problem instead of working with him for them to both come to a solution.
And then the episode on the ski trip where he talks to that girl all night. And then the fall out from that and the next few episodes is another case of that. She told Cory to go out with that girl and then got mad at him for going out with her even though it helped clarify for Cory that Topanga was the only girl for him and he didn't want that other girl.
Topanga said that guys hit on her all the time and she never needed to test her feelings for Cory. That's fine if you're a pretty girl and get hit on a lot. I'm sure after awhile it just becomes background noise. But she needs to try to understand where Cory is coming from. If you're a guy and you're not hit on by girls all the time and you've never done that great with girls and you're not all that confident with the opposite sex, then it would be flattering and appealing to have a girl like the girl at the ski lodge who really likes you that much. It would be something that you hadn't really experienced before. Topganga needed to realize that something that was old hat for her was new and exciting to Cory because he had never experienced that before.
There's a difference too, between the girls that like Cory and the guys that like Topanga. The girl from the ski lodge, Harley's sister (and it seems like maybe there's one other girl I'm forgetting) all like Cory because he's nice to them and they can talk to him. They like his personality. However, when guys like 1/2
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Ultimately Anne overcame her rough early years and had a happy life. Part of the problem with productions like these is looking at a story that takes place in the 1870s/1880s through the eyes of 2017. You have to trust the source material of the person who lived through those years and wrote it.
I do thin that Anne of Green Gables would be a great TV series, though. There's just too much in the books to put into a movie, although I love the first two Kevin Sullivan films. I think an AoGG series that stayed true to the books and the beauty of the island would be great.
Yeah, there's a lot of stuff in Anne with an E that is not in the book. It diverges from the source material so much that they might have been better off just to create an entirely new story.
I think this little trend we're going through now is going to look silly in about ten or so years. The trend of having to make everything dark and super serious. With a show like Breaking Bad, the dark tone and seriousness makes sense, but what Vince Gilligan realized that a lot of the copycats don't realize it that it also has to be enjoyable to watch. BB had bits of humor in it. They knew when to be serious and when to give the audience a rest. They also didn't shoot it super dark like so many shows today. If it was the middle of the day in the desert, it looked like the middle of the day in the desert instead of being shot with an extremely dark filter over the lens.
Now everything has to be re-imagined in a super serious tone. Although I haven't watched it, there's a dark, serious show about Archie and Jughead. The sequel series to Boy Meets World lost all of the humor of its predecessor and became super serious. It wasn't true to itself. As silly as Fuller House is, it realizes what it is and where it came from and doesn't take itself too seriously.
It's pretty obvious that the makers of Anne with an E just didn't understand the books. In the books, despite what Anne had been through or seen in her 12 years of life, she tried to stay positive and look at the bright side of life. Her imagination helped her through that. Once she got to Green Gables and knew that Marilla was going to allow her to stay it was as if everything she'd ever dreamed of came true. She lived in a beautiful place with people who loved her. She could get a proper education. She finally had a friend her own age in Diane. Yes, Anne got into scrapes after being taken in by the Cuthberts but they were more of the Leave It To Beaver type scrapes; dying her hair green, selling the wrong cow etc.
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True.
It's interesting to think about what Disney would put on their channel back then as opposed to now. A show like Avonlea would never have a chance on Disney now days.
It was not their baby, but they did help produce it. It was a joint effort between Sullivan's production company, CBC, and Disney.
I second that. I wish Netflix would pick this up and rerun it. I loved this show sooooo much. Still do. I have a few of the seasons on DVD.
Piper is a Dan Schneider trope. Whether it's Megan from Drake & Josh or Sam from iCarly or Jade from Victorious or Piper, he likes to have these characters that are mean for no reason. It might work out okay if he would give them at least some redeemable qualities but he doesn't. They never soften up or have a vulnerable moment, they're just mean all the time. They don't change or grow as characters. They're just so unlikeable.
I can definitely see that comparison.
And like Kimmy, I never understood why the other characters hated her so much. Sure, she did some annoying things, but so did the other characters. Same as Kimmy. And I also didn't know why they tried to pretend like she was ugly or unattractive, like they did with Kimmy. Both were/are attractive.
It's one of those characters that the other characters hate and find unattractive but the audience doesn't.
Not sure if you're trolling or if this is an honest post.
In case it's a real post; the boarding school is a literary device to get the kids away from the parents and adult supervision for the most part. The kids can be as psychologically healthy or unhealthy as the writers decide. It's not real life.
It's like in the Harry Potter universe, the lack of parents and adult supervision allows for the kids to have adventures and drama and solve things on their own. They realized that tweens and teens don't really want to watch a show about kids that have no agency since their parents keep butting in so they get them away from that with a boarding school.
Dan did the same sort of thing on iCarly with a girl living with her older, but immature brother and both of the parents out of the picture.