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Decent... (spoilers)


Clearly agenda driven, which is a bit heavy-handed at times, but overall it's got a good chance of becoming a pretty good show. Missy (Maggie) is always awesome. Sela (Dana) is a legend (with little to do here other than spout profile possibilities, and prop up Maggie's confidence). Zeeko (OA) is good, but I'd like to see him step out of the shadows a bit. Hopefully that comes as his character grows. Jeremy (Jubal) needs more to do than just spout exposition (give us a story where someone he's tried capturing before comes back to haunt him and the audience learns about Jubal through the team hunting this guy again - something like the movie 'Se7en' would be a great dynamic). Ebonee(Kristen) needs more to do too. She's the tech, so give the team a hunt where they have to really rely on her skills to help them find someone... maybe like 'The Cell', find the victim before the clock runs out.

It's kind of missing the romance angle (she's still grieving her dead husband), but I'm actually kind of happy that it doesn't have that crutch at the moment. (Rookie Blue started out decent then unfortunately fell into the 'sleep-around soap opera' nonsense by the end.)

FBI's current faults for me lie with the far too many characters that simply exist to spout a line or two of exposition, and the plot points coming via radio/phone. I don't know if that's just my perception, or it it is the reality - either way, I cringe each time Jubal skates through a scene and lobs a word salad to get everyone up to speed, and then Kristen pops up with all the magical information 3 times an episode.

And I'd like to see a series arc at some point. Procedurals are ok, but they're cotton candy when audiences these days are more into binging shows with season arcs. We want substance!

The potential is there, I hope it finds some traction soon. Ease up on the agenda stuff... it doesn't have to be blatant to be effective, and give the actors more to work with. And never put Maggie and OA in a romantic situation... let them have significant others, just never each other because it's a trap that all of these shows fall into. And don't dumb any of it down.

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I don't foresee long story arcs. I think it's following the L&O formula of keeping the episodes self contained.

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Agreed. And that's a shame because the L&O shows always feel forgettable and interchangeable. Criminal Minds is probably the most egregious writing in the genre though... They're a team of seasoned professionals and when a new case comes up, they all stand in a circle and talk the exposition to each other as if it's everyone's first day on the job. Every. Dang. Episode. I just can't even watch it.

For FBI though, something with more substance, even if it's a 'c' storyline has to happen or it'll lose modern audiences.

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It seems like every TV cop show and First Responder-esque shows these days follow the exact same agenda--some of which, admittedly, is long overdue. But when they try to swing the pendulum too quickly and drastically, it becomes obvious to the point of patronizing. Each show now goes out of its way to show women and minorities in lead roles.....and, to show women not only doing anything and everything physically a man can do, but also to show women throwing men around routinely. It's an interesting dynamic. We need to show equality. But REALISTICALLY....with all the hand-to-hand fighting scenes we see each week on cop shows, the woman is not going to kick the man's ass 95% of the time. But it would be awful to show a man clock a woman in the face. I suppose it's just one of those things where....the older audience shakes their head with a small grin and simply recognize the patronizing pendulum swing was necessary, albeit too drastic too quickly. While the younger audience (whom the pendulum swing targets) can feel empowered. It is what it is. What bothers me, however is, in the meantime, with all this empowerment agenda going on, shows like L&O SVU go out of their way to make 99% of the criminals as evil white males.....doing horrific things (to women). And it's women cops taking the lead in catching the perps (and kicking their asses). Again, it's an empowerment agenda, and to an extent I understand it. But it can sometimes be overly heavyhanded and one-sided.

Another trend we see in EVERY cop ensemble....has already been mentioned: Each person in the ensemble gets a speaking part and adds a piece to the puzzle during the conversation, nice and cleanly orchestrated....to the point where key breaks in the case always happen conveniently...in a perfectly-timed entrance of a cop adding to the conversation with something like: "I just got off the phone with Alverez, and the bullet is a perfect match." Heck, the camera even bounces from person to person in the circle right before their orchestrated contribution. It's like everything comes together in one meeting in front of that stupid white board with the schematic and the photos of people linked to each other. We've seen that same scene (and that same orchestrated ensemble conversation) 100 times. LOL.

Oh, and I agree about the Jobal character. In both of the (FBI) episodes I have seen, all he does is hang out at "headquarters" and yell out orders into the air, not directing them at anyone in particular. Oh, but at least his sleeves are rolled up.

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I agree.

(In FBI, Maggie gets into a fight with a guy and he punched her in the face, hard. She goes down. It's realistic... the only realistic fight I've seen.)

The other trope is cop/cop relationships where they're dating someone else on the force. SWAT did it. The Rookie launched with it. It's kinda cringey cheap, cliched writing. Especially on The Rookie because it looks, and feels, like a significant age difference between them.

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I must be watching a different show to you, Missy is annoyingly patronising to her partner constantly, and Sela walks around with a perpetual smile on her face no matter the situation, it is really off putting. I think Jeremy is great and the best character is probably Ebonee Noel's but each to their own, that si why some shows win and some shows die an excruciatingly slow death

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I agree... they aren't writing her dynamic with her partner really well. Sela may not be able to do anything BUT smile at this point.

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