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1921 Tulsa Race Riot actually happened as shown!


Am I the only one who never heard of this before, and assumed it was part of parallel world Watchmen history? Here's what Wikipedia has to say about it:

The Tulsa race riot (also called the Tulsa massacre, Greenwood Massacre, or the Black Wall Street Massacre) of 1921 took place on May 31 and June 1, 1921, when mobs of white residents attacked black residents and businesses of the Greenwood District in Tulsa, Oklahoma. It has been called "the single worst incident of racial violence in American history." The attack, carried out on the ground and from private aircraft, destroyed more than 35 square blocks of the district – at that time the wealthiest black community in the United States, known as "Black Wall Street".

More than 800 people were admitted to hospitals and more than 6,000 black residents were arrested and detained, many for several days. The Oklahoma Bureau of Vital Statistics officially recorded 36 dead, but the American Red Cross declined to provide an estimate. A 2001 state commission examination of events estimated that between 100 and 300 were killed in the rioting.

The riot began over Memorial Day weekend after 19-year-old Dick Rowland, a black shoeshiner, was accused of assaulting Sarah Page, the 17-year-old white elevator operator of the nearby Drexel Building. He was taken into custody. A subsequent gathering of angry local whites outside the courthouse where Rowland was being held, and the spread of rumors he had been lynched, alarmed the local black population, some of whom arrived at the courthouse armed. Shots were fired and twelve people were killed: ten white and two black. As news of these deaths spread throughout the city, mob violence exploded. Thousands of whites rampaged through the black neighborhood that night and the next day, killing men, women, and children, burning and looting stores and homes. About 10,000 black people were left homeless, and property damage amounted to more than $1.5 million in real estate and $750,000 in personal property ($32 million in 2019).

Many survivors left Tulsa. Black and white residents who stayed in the city were silent for decades about the terror, violence, and losses of this event. The riot was largely omitted from local, state, and national histories: "The Tulsa race riot of 1921 was rarely mentioned in history books, classrooms or even in private. Blacks and whites alike grew into middle age unaware of what had taken place."

In 1996, seventy-five years after the riot, a bipartisan group in the state legislature authorized formation of the Oklahoma Commission to Study the Tulsa Race Riot of 1921 (renamed Oklahoma Commission to Study the Tulsa Race Massacre, in November 2018). Members were appointed to investigate events, interview survivors, hear testimony from the public, and prepare a report of events. There was an effort toward public education about these events through the process. The Commission's final report, published in 2001, said that the city had conspired with the mob of white citizens against black citizens; it recommended a program of reparations to survivors and their descendants. The state passed legislation to establish some scholarships for descendants of survivors, encourage economic development of Greenwood, and develop a memorial park in Tulsa to the riot victims. The park was dedicated in 2010.



It's amazing how our nation's past has been sanitized, that something like this could be so obscure. If people were being gunned down in the street and bombs were being dropped anywhere these days, there'd be posted videos in real time. News channels would be all over it. But in 1921 there was no live coverage. Which means the powers that be were able to sweep it under the rug and make it pretty much disappear. Has me wondering what other recent historical events I know nothing about.

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Welcome to the internet of things. 😎 Some posters couldn't get past what they felt was manipulation of the Watchmen name and what they feel is Wokeness, to even delve into the Tulsa Massacre/Riot and it's point in the series.

https://moviechat.org/tt7049682/Watchmen/5db36ebf290b7e61810f9e2b/Tulsa-RiotMassacare

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It is going to get quite interesting if Lindelöf takes the Watchmen series into the Harlem of 1943 with Will as a police officer:

Harlem Riot 1943: A race riot took place in Harlem, New York City, on August 1 and 2 of 1943, after a white police officer, James Collins, shot and wounded Robert Bandy, an African-American soldier; and rumors circulated that the soldier had been killed. The riot was chiefly directed by black residents against white-owned property in Harlem. It was one of six riots in the nation that year related to black and white tensions during World War II. The others took place in Detroit; Beaumont, Texas; Mobile, Alabama; and Los Angeles. In Beaumont and Mobile, the riots were white defense industry workers attacking blacks.

In Harlem, Bandy had witnessed a black woman's arrest for disorderly conduct in a hotel and sought to have her released. According to the police, Bandy hit the officer, who shot the soldier as he was trying to flee from the scene. A crowd of about 3,000 people gathered at police headquarters, after a smaller crowd had followed Bandy and the officer to a hospital for treatment. When someone in the crowd at police headquarters incorrectly stated that Bandy had been killed, a riot ensued in the community that lasted for two days and resulted in six deaths and hundreds injured, with nearly 600 arrests. The riot had a pattern mostly of vandalism, theft, and property destruction of white-owned businesses in Harlem, resulting in monetary damages, rather than attacks on persons. New York City Mayor Fiorello H. La Guardia ultimately restored order in the borough on August 2 with the recruitment of several thousand officers and volunteer forces to contain the rioters. City units cleaned up and repaired buildings. The mayor also supplied food and goods afterward to compensate for the closed businesses.

The underlying causes of the riot stemmed from resentment among black residents of Harlem of the disparity between the vaunted values of American democracy and the social and economic conditions they were forced to live under, including brutality and discriminatory treatment by the mostly white city police force. They resented the segregation of black troops serving with the United States, and wartime shortages created more difficult conditions in Harlem housing and supplies. African Americans suffered discriminatory practices in civil and private employment, and city services, which created tension as they tried to improve their lives. Bandy symbolized the Black soldiers who were segregated in the Army, even as the United States promoted the national fight for 'freedom.' Collins represented the white discrimination and suppression black residents had to deal with on a daily basis. The riot became a subject of art and literature: it inspired the "theatrical climax" of Ralph Ellison's novel Invisible Man, winner of the 1953 National Book Award, it frames the events recounted in James Baldwin's memoirs Notes of a Native Son, and it appears in artist William Johnson's painting Moon Over Harlem.

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Are you really trying to compare a riot which only a handful of people were killed and mostly targeted businesses and was the result of racial discrimination, to one in which an entire community was destroyed and hundreds killed because of racist jealousy of black success. You really think there is some kind of moral equivalency here?

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You really think there is some kind of moral equivalency here?
More of an Immoral Equivalency when you ponder the two situations. The two events and how they are treated, covered and reacted to in the Watchmen society and how Will sees the two and the application of justice with the execution of the law is what I was thinking that the show might be teasing. I was wondering if Lindelöf was treating Will as a Forrest Gump type of character or an avatar for African Americans collectively experiencing these events while they play out and how those events shape and create a heritage based on trauma, forming a Genetic Trauma. Which gets passed through ones lineage and now that Angela has taken Will's memory (Nostalgia) pills she will be experiencing his life from his POV.

Besides Will potentially becoming Hooded Justice or even killing Hooded Justice are potential plot points thrown out there for speculation. Something happened to Will that he wants Angela to experience for herself. I just thought that the 1943 Harlem riot (from his POV as a law man) would be one of those.

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meanwhile the knockout game goes on.

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When did Will play the "Knockout Game"? He is 105 years old!! What does that have to do with this HBO series?

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It's amazing how our nation's past has been sanitized, that something like this could be so obscure. If people were being gunned down in the street and bombs were being dropped anywhere these days, there'd be posted videos in real time. News channels would be all over it. But in 1921 there was no live coverage. Which means the powers that be were able to sweep it under the rug and make it pretty much disappear. Has me wondering what other recent historical events I know nothing about.
Appearances and even events are being exposed as having been subverted in this Watchmen HBO series right down to the origin story of Hooded Justice and its inclusion (or really lack thereof) on American Hero Story.

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