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Fun, but botches the history--and plot gaps often makes no sense.


Before anyone gets angry, I'll say that I'm enjoying it for what it is: fictionalized pseudo-history. (Yes, my redundancy is intentional.) Yet, what surprised me most was how one often feels important scenes have been left out. For example, neither Victoria nor Albert like one another, to say the least, and then they are suddenly in love and engaged. With Albert, this could be attributed to a robotic sense of duty. Yet, for Victoria, unlike the real-life events, this plot made zero sense as we finished the episode wondering "What changed her mind?"

I'm surprised the writers didn't borrow from the real Victoria and Albert and simply depict the raw libido that fueled their relationship, both before and after the marriage. (Victoria hated being pregnant and was mostly annoyed at having children to deal with.) Some of the pointless scenes of the episode could have been replaced by even just one passionate interaction that would have made sense of the proposal scene which was the obvious crescendo of the courtship.

So I'm curious, did anyone else wonder if they had somehow missed something? Did you wonder why the sudden total change of heart? Typical chick-flick rom-coms take an entire film to gradually turn the leading lady's contempt for the tactless, frustrating, expressionless, brooding man into True Everlasting Loveā„¢. But this Victoria episode appears to have skipped that process entirely.

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Like most shows on TV and films, the romance is blown up, 10 fold.

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Sure 'nough!

It is funny to read some of the descriptions of Lord Chamberlain around the same time as this series depicts Victoria as so in love with him. If my brain still recalls such information accurately, he was quite overweight and people complained about him falling asleep and snoring loudly during important royal functions. I think one such account described him as flatulent after falling asleep and the stench being quite disturbing due to his diet. Would that be endearing to Victoria? I somehow doubt it.

I recall that there was lots of gossip about them. That makes sense: a powerful man advising a young 18 year old lady who has a restricted social circle. They would have been alone at times. People talk. She clearly considered him a father figure. So just because some writers claimed there was romantic love between them is not necessarily proof of such.

Anyway, some cite paintings of Chamberlain as proof he was "dashing". Even if some painting reflected his age at that time, we all know that a lot of paintings flatter the appearance of the subject. (I know that from my own experience.)

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You mean Melbourne?

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Frankly, I'm surprised that Albert was not depicted much more handsomely in the production--though the original Albert would not strike us as handsome today.

Of course, both Victoria and Albert would have been judged by different standards than what we apply today.

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Yes I had the same impression their love story was rushed. One second he's being super annoying according to her standards and the scene after they are deeply in love.

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So nobody has mentioned yet that Albert saved Victoria's beloved dog? That would have speeded things up in his favor.

And also, it is worth remembering that the real Victoria and Albert got engaged after only five days of courting as well.

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