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Why must the Americans always jump on everything...


My rant: A massive appeal factor of the first movie was the British-ness of it all. It was classic Britain through and through. Now the Americans have swamped the sequel making up like 3/4 of the cast and the story being all about America. Self-sycophants. Why must they always hijack everything. The pictures of Channing Tatum in British/Kingsman attire. Please. Spare me. What a dork. For once just go away. Another instance of Americans trying to be British.

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The movie was written by Mark Millar and Mathew Vauhn. The first movie and the sequel was actually a joint American and English production,these being Marv films and TSG Productions. The direction of the sequel has nothing to do with anything you actually said. It's just where they wanted to take the story.

Americans trying to be british? What? As if England is the only country to have spies and suits...

The antagonist of the first movie was American. The antagonist of the second movie is also American. Americans are the bad guys in both of these movies. The breakout scene of the movie took place in the States as well. This would be the fight scene that is suppose to stand in for the West Boro Baptist Church.

Your math on Americans making up 3/4ths of the movie is just simply wrong. There are only 4 Americans out of 13 top billed actors.

Julian Moore, one of the American actors plays the villain in the film.

Keep in mind that the sequel would not even have happened without American Audiences. The film made 124 million at the American box office with no other country even coming close. UK only brought in a measly 24 million.


Your rant is completely baseless and devoid of any facts. Wherever you are from, you do your country and its people a huge disservice.

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Very Nice Reply... Lol. Love It


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See that's the kind of response we need more of on the IMDB boards; reasoned, well informed, factual! The fact is, the writers of the first movie used many American influences, yet maintained a British feel. I believe they'll do the same with the sequel. That said, however, I wouldn't call Kingsman the epitome of Britishness in cinema. Shaun of the Dead still tops that particular list.

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While I can't say I fully agree with all the anger or the suggestion that the team in charge of this film were usurped by Americans....

I will say I loved the original and preferred to have British actors in British roles as opposed to American actors attempting to do a British accent (which I have only once or twice seen an American actor do convincingly). That said, when you are a Global Defense Agency, it kinda makes a good bit of sense to have a few allies. I felt the recent Bond films did a good job of showing that a friend in your corner can do some good.

Like someone said earlier, wait and see. There could easily be a scene in which most if not all of these new characters get killed off or are not as central as their billing may imply.

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Not sure what you're referring to with Channing Tatum in British/Kingsman attire... Probably just about every man in the world has occasion to wear a suit one time or the other..

But I am wondering how they'll relate the Statesmen though.. America has no grand tailoring tradition, in fact bespoke tailors are pretty hard to come by there... so, what do the Statesmen do?

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It is because the film is funded by an American studio and that studio believes that they have to sell Americans, as heroes, to their audience. On the flip side every villain has to be a foreigner (usually British) to emphasise this.

I think it is referred to it as John Wayne syndrome, as a middle american audience likes to see themselves as John Wayne ‘the hero’.
Full metal Jacket pokes funny at this concept with several John Wayne referenced based jokes.

It is sad really, liberal Hollywood likes to blent on about how there is a lack of diversity in roles yet they completely ignore the xenophobic attitude they have the majority of their films, by either casting a non American as at the baddie or taking a film that was successful but made overseas and remaking it, like The girl with the Dragon Tattoo.

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I know this a old post. But I don't think i would call the Americans the Heroes. The Statemen don't do a whole lot in this film. The President was willing to late people die.

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Why don't britz start their own Hollywood? I cant stand their awful accent.

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Oh hush, you tit!

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"Why must they always hijack everything"

They've been doing it ever since they stole the English language. Thieving bastards.

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It was Matthew Vaughn decision to add the Stateman to the script. So Blame him and last time i checked hes British.

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Tanning Chatum is in the sequel? I liked the first movie, but f—k that guy is annoying.

Interesting fact, if you go back— even less than a hundred years— the “British accent” that exists now didn’t really exist then. And the “American accent”was also quite different. If nothing, the differences we hear now are quite recent (and continuing to change). A current British accent used as default for anything old or cultured is as silly as Hollywood itself.

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