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Miss the upside-Down World in season 2


Season 1 were a 9/10 and season 2 a 7/10 for me.

Part of the fascination for me were the upside-Down World, but it played a very little part in season two. In stead the demagordens were in our world and that was not nearly as fascinating for me. I wanted to explore the upsidedown world more.
It is a little bit like Alien1 vs Alien2, one monster were scarier than hundreds of them.

The part of El going to the Big City was such a flaw to the season, I had a hard time to watch after that. Making another superpower-girl with another type of power cost a lot of credibility for me.

It got a bit better in the end, but nowhere near as good and as polished as season 1.

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I love both seasons. The demo monsters did lose their fascination, but they seemed generally scarier and leveled up. Maybe we will get to see a different layer of the Upside Down in the next season. I could have done without Elevens back story with her “sister” too. Their gang was so laughable and just lame.

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I thought the sister and her gang were going to turn out to be a band.

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The story overall seemed to move a little too fast this season. Getting to know the characters in Season One was the main attraction for me more so than the Upside Down World. Some of the characters were not as appealing this time, due to the fast pace in which they told the story. The Mind Flayer, in my opinion, was revealed too soon as it appears to be the ultimate foe. One of my biggest disappointments was the revealing of the others like Eleven, this I believe was revealed way too soon. Eleven was such a mysterious and emotional character and even though the emotional side of her is still there part of that mystery has been lost now. Am I being unreasonable? Maybe. I know the story has to keep moving forward and more often than not new ideas are good, I just hope they slow things down a little especially where the characters are concerned.

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I think others have said that Big City trip was a setup for next season, which makes sense. I didn’t enjoy that episode either.

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Agreed, good point on the Upside Down component. I gave Season 1 an "A", while Season 2 a "B".

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The implication with the Mind Flayer being this predatory world-conquering hive is that the Upside Down is an adjacent parallel timeline, practically identical to ours and probably invaded recently. It would be interesting if they introduced a group of human survivors that's been hanging on over there, they find a gateway the Mind Flayer is opening between worlds and a couple of them manage to avoid being killed and slip through. Maybe Hopper or his deputies pick them up wandering through town and we get to hear their story - after they wolf down a meal like they haven't eaten in weeks (which maybe they haven't). This would probably be a late season 3 or early season 4 kind of thing, something that would happen shortly before a final attack began.

If they wanted to do a standalone episode like they did this year with Eleven and Kali, they could make it about the Upside Down being attacked and going from a place like our world, with billions of people, green plants and blue skies, to the dark cold hell it became, with a handful of people surviving in the shadows. Living in tunnels and underground shelters and scrounging for food. I think it would be interesting to see the invasion of the other world play out.

It would likely start the same way it almost started in season 2, with a minor incursion the military thought could be controlled. Eventually it would get out of hand and things would go downhill fast. There'd be flows of refugees leaving the expanding "infected zone", ground attacks, airstrikes, and eventually nukes. The Mind Flayer meanwhile would be countering with vast armies of demogorgons and probably other creatures that fly in the air and swim underwater. Plus infiltrators like Will. Humans who have been compromised and are now under its control. At the end, we'd see our survivors from the previous episode setting out on the journey that would eventually lead them here.

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I agree with you on the Upside-Down world fascination. It gave the show this kind of mystical aura and mystery that was dampened by the whole 'let's add a billion more monsters, yet make them a far lesser obstacle than that 1xdemogorgon was in season 1'.

El going to the Big City seemed to me like a boring, but necessary chapter in a novel. You probably won't like it, but you need to read it to understand everything it sets up later.

I was more disappointed by Dustin sweetly raising a demogorgon - it does what Jurassic World did and makes what is supposed to be a terrifying monster, not so terrifying or so monstrous.

Still liked it though. But season 2 overall felt like build up to season 3, and just a little too angsty overall for my taste.

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The demogorgons are like Will when he was possessed. If they could've driven the Mind Flayer's hive infection out of Dart, he could've been Dustin's pet for ... however long they live. They seem to have an intelligence level similar to a dog's and even run in packs. The ones we saw this season were still juveniles when they died. The one last season was an adult; perhaps when it's done molting and fully grown, a demogorgon's hide hardens up like armor plating making it much tougher to kill.

The Mind Flayer is this show's ultimate foe. The series will most likely end with its defeat. A giant predatory organism that invades one world after another, spreading its hive and wiping out the native life, that's one hell of a monster! In any story involving mysterious forces and other realms, you can only tease viewers for a while before they lose patience. You have to reveal things and as the unknown becomes known that veil of mystery dissipates. No sense regretting that. It goes with the territory. The real question is whether they did it well.

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