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Things I sorta don't get


The movie is not bad, but in the end I think it falls short. Predictable in places and weird in other places. If you don't want spoilers, then don't read any further. Anyway, here were a few things I did not get or thought were just odd:
1. They refer to this as reincarnation, but it's not really reincarnation. It is sort of like possession and reincarnation. And it's not clear to whom this happens. They suggest that it is people with unfinished business (e.g. the guy who came back to be with his mother), but who doesn't leave this earth with some serious unfinished business? (The scene with the bullet holes on the dude and then showing the blood on the baby was cool!)
2. Why did the killer get naked and commit suicide when he was caught? Did he have some reason to know that he'd come back in another body. Serial killers don't generally kill themselves. I mean why not give up and plan an escape, like Hannibal?
3. What happened to the babysitter (who fell down the stairs)? They almost suggest that she died, but something is odd there; it's as if they cut something out.
4. The part about the mom wanting to murder the serial killer's lone survivor is a bit odd. Most soccer moms don't become cold-blooded killers overnight, especially where the victim has had a hard life and has her own children. Not very credible, especially as there was no guarantee that this would work (which of course it did not).
5. The farmer shooting the mom is rather odd. Very strange he would come out there, with a rifle, and a shoot a strange woman; he wouldn't know if they were just playing a game and if it was a toy gun etc. And not even as much as a warning: "Hey, what's going on?" or "Can I help you?" No -- just shoot first and ask questions later. And not even just shoot her in the arm or leg; he was pretty darn close. (And this type of ending has been done before.)
6. The movie is called the "Prodigy," but the "prodigy" aspect of the plot is almost irrelevant to the rest of the movie. The movie still works if he's an idiot or a prodigy. So it's an odd name for the movie and an odd aspect to the movie.
7. The movie ends as if the kid will just continue with his mischief (e.g. eyeing that woman's hands), but his dad will likely recover (in an induced coma) and that other dude knows about the possession, and so at some point the jig will be up. Just some loose ends, unless you want to assume that the tot just wipes those guys out.
8. Speaking of the guy with all the expertise in reincarnation, they treat him as almost sort of a scientist, but there is no such real study nor a sufficient data set or way of researching this stuff. He says e.g. that the child must be fixed soon or else it's too late, but how the heck would he know? Is there a research study showing that the possessor leaves when the mission is accomplished, and that it's too late after age 10? That initial scene with him is also a bit awkward; you don't just dump the concept of possession-reincarnation on the family member of a possessed person in 2 minutes.
9. The kid seems to rebel when he learns that he's going to some sort of boarding school. But why would he care? If anything, he'll be away from the people who are savvy to his evil nature. Why not just go to boarding school, create mischief there, then get old and go commit more mischief? Who needs parents for that?
OK -- but again --- not a horrible movie. Pretty well acted, interesting ideas.

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Let me give some "thoughts, and address them by your numbers.

1 The way I see it, it was sort of like "Childs Play" except the soul of the bad guy was transferred to an Unborn baby. In that case, the guy transferred himself to a doll because it was "handy" but the real goal was to get to a child for the eventual possession. I kind of agree that reincarnation is the wrong term. The host child is not reincarnated as such.
I think the term possession usually seems to indicate possession by something demonic, like the Exorcist. I dont know of any case history of a person being born with their own identity and harboring a second identity waiting to take over but then too, there are split personalities which may validate the idea. We have certainly explored the subject of multiple personalities.

4 I felt that the mother had "lost her mind" to consider killing an innocent woman who had already been a victim. Personally I didnt see compelling evidence that killing the woman would make things "all better again" The act was based on a rather flimsy notion that to carry out the desired act of the killer inside her son, would send him away since the task was completed.
A rational person wouldnt do such a thing. Its an act of desperation by someone who is no longer thinking rationally.

5 Putting myself in the position of the farmer (or as any armed bystander) my instinct would be to protect a child. You dont always had a lot of time to think things out; you just kind of react. Its a modern day lesson of why games with guns, are not going to be viewed as games if and when they appear threatening.

6 I see your point. We DO know that the boy took on physical characteristics of the killer inside him. I honestly dont remember, was there any indication that the killer was a Prodigy as a child.

7 What I saw was the fact that the boy was gone and all that remained was the killer inside him (by his admission). So unfortunately future parents will harbor a serial killer.

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Moving on....
8 Agreed. This was a basis of why I felt there was much too flimsy evidence that carrying out the mission of the killer inside the child oud have any effect on making him go away.

9 The only think of is that he will be in a more structured environment which will be less tolerant of him and any destructive behavior. He KNEW he had his mothers unconditional love (to a point) but his new environment will be less tolerant.

These are just a few thoughts. Its good to be in a discussion where sharing thoughts is welcome.

One thing to consider. ANY horror or sci Fi movie or even fiction takes liberties. Plots are designed and written to work out a story, even at the expense of logic. These are examples of that. It still was a decent movie and somewhat original in its story. THe movie was not exactly what I expected but I went in with little preconceived ideas of what it was. I was not disappointed. It leaves itself a bit open ended with rood for a sequel but it doesnt really need one.
You raised some good points. I would like to hear others thoughts.

BTW
When the DVD comes out, I always look forward to directors commentaries. Sometimes they explain things as to what the intent was as well as tie up some loose ends.

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yea agree,

My biggest problem was basicly there was no way they could ever fix this, yes the movie ends badly (or not if you were rooting for the serial killer) and thats not a bad thing, I like bad endings, but for a movie to be exciting there has to be some way for the 'good' guys to win. If the bad guy has automaticly won, then there is no tension.
Killing the woman that lost 1 hand and survived, even if it would have undone the possession would also have been a bad ending.
What other option was there? Kill their own son.. also bad. So without any way possible for a good ending it just doesnt make for a good movie

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I think they should have had the hypnotist kill him at the end. "Pubic hair in your teeth huh?" "Well take this" He shoves a knife through his mouth or shoots him in the face. That guy knows the kid killed the lady, stabbed his dad, and got his mom killed. Then they don't show him at all in the end? He didn't inform that lady doctor how dangerous the kid is?

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That would've been a better ending. As it is now, it's a typical horror movie ending setting it up for a sequel.

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1. The movie incorrectly differentiates between 'possession' and 'reincarnation'. Reincarnation would mean Scarka is reborn as a baby, not possess a baby that already has a soul. Minor hiccup that doesn't affect the plot.

2. Crazy killer doing crazy killer things. Wouldn't read much into it.

3. She didn't die, probably complained to the parents. But had no proof, which is why the mother asked Miles what happened.

4. Agreed. Mom didn't even ask Arthur Jacobson for help on this one. That guy single-handedly made all the breakthroughs with her son.

5. The guy with the gun just had a knee-jerk reaction seeing a gun pointed at the kid. I would let it slide.

6. 'Prodigy' is just a reference to how mistaken the parents were about their own child, thinking he was some genius.

7. Agreed. No way kid was getting away clean when there's the dad who'll wake up any minute, the therapist and the hypnotist who know the truth, and fingerprints on a murder weapon. This was the big pain point for me.

8. Jaconson is the Van Helsing character, a trope used to establish the 'rules' in the movie. And the stuff he sayd about ghosts possessing someone to complete unfulfiled wishes from a past life is common lore in Asian countries. It's why he cited an example from India.

9. The kid uses his mother's love to manipulate her. His schtick won't fly in a boarding school, other kids would beat the crap out of him.

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