Cheryl


Well a few weeks ago I predicted that she would still have a part to play in this as when Kim and Jimmy lied to her about Howard’s addiction that didn’t seem like that would be the end of her. I was then laughed at and told I was wrong.

Turns out I was right the whole time.

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(sound of no one giving a fuck)

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Apparently you do seeing how you responded.

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Well I for one wasn't laughing at you, just saying why I felt it was over, which was because I figured Cheryl wouldn't pursue it any further and that was why it was done and dusted as part of the story and she wouldn't cause their downfall.

Which of course Cheryl didn't do as it was Kim that went to Cheryl 6 years later with a copy of her affidavit that she'd already filed with Bernalillo County that day about what her and Jimmy did. This of course after Jimmy/Saul in rage says why don't you confess then, however I am more than happy to say I was incorrect on this one, didn't really think it would play a part in the ending. As I say I felt it was done and dusted for that reason, I only looked at it as Cheryl perusing it not Kim fessing up to her and the authorities, or Gene/Jimmy/Saul for that matter. Never figured on Jimmy/Saul pushing Kim so far that she would crack and basically turn against him implicating herself in the process just to be done with Jimmy/Saul in her life regardless of the consequences.

So yep I didn't think Cheryl would appear in the show after that episode and again I'm happy to say that I was incorrect as I misread where it was all heading not expecting Kim to confess to Cheryl.

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I don't recall that. I recall someone (maybe you) predicting that Cheryl's actions would lead to their downfall, which was incorrect, and people pointing out how unlikely that was, and that her role was complete, which it was. That Kim later went to her to apologize, and tell her that she had voluntarily turned herself in is far, far different from a scenario in which Cheryl said or did anything to jeopardize our protagonists.

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I didn’t say she would lead to their downfall I said she had a bigger part to play in the narrative and I was right.

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Though I guess if Cheryl follows through with her threat to Kim of: I could sue you in civil court, I could take everything you've got, she will cause some downfall to them (or at least Kim), as Cheryl seemed pretty resigned to the fact that Kim at the least would not be held accountable with a public trial for what she/they did.

As that civil threat came after Kim this:

K: It's up to the district attorney whether to prosecute.
And she may not.
C: Why?
There's no physical evidence.
No remaining witnesses other than my ex-husband, assuming he's still alive.


So doesn't seem Cheryl will follow through with pushing for a public trial, though she could cause a downfall to Kim by taking Kim for everything she's got.

Who knows that may be part of why Saul/Jimmy's house is being emptied out in that early season scene, though I suspect that is more the State/Federals confiscating all of Saul/Jimmy's belongings as they were got through the proceeds of crime, so will be auctioned off and the money raised go to the Tax Department/IRS. Could be incorrect on that as that is what happens here in Australia, especially so when it's related to the Drug Trade, not fully up on U.S.A Law so may be talking out of term here.

So looking back over it to this episode, if Kim had not felt bad about what happened to Howard; in turn bad that she made Cheryl believe she really didn't know her husband and that Cheryl had to live with that thought for the rest of her life. Then Kim would not have confessed, so that could be seen as leading to their downfall indirectly in that sense as well, so yep as you say only indirectly so, but still now I can see that Cheryl was central to it all (bigger part to play as you say).


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What bigger part do you think she will play? Or do you mean sitting and listening to Kim is somehow a bigger part?

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A bigger part than what we saw in the last episode she was in. And I was right.

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